As far as I know the proprietry ATI drivers *do* require legacy BIOS emulation but this is provided by the latest Apple SMC Firmware update not Boot Camp and although I am using Boot Camp I only used it to prep the XP final partition on my system and think that rEFIt is doing most of the work.
Cheers, Will (this synaptics is starting to get on my nerves) > Send Mactel-linux-users mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mactel-linux-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: sometimes macbook kernel panic on boot (Jurgen Kramer) > 2. Re: key bounces, every char is doubled? (Jurgen Kramer) > 3. Re: GPT vs MBR partitions (Ludovic Rousseau) > 4. boot camp and/or new firmware? (Ludovic Rousseau) > 5. Re: boot camp and/or new firmware? (Chris L. Mason) > 6. sometimes macbook kernel panic on boot (Will Parker) > 7. Re: boot camp and/or new firmware? (Ludovic Rousseau) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:18:04 +0200 > From: Jurgen Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] sometimes macbook kernel panic on > boot > To: Pierre Dinh-van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 19:45 +0200, Pierre Dinh-van wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm using Ubuntu dapper on my Macbook 2GHz, in dual boot with mac os x >> using >> rEFIt (no bootcamp). >> >> I noticed that very often, the Macbook can't boot on my Linux kernel, >> stopping >> with a kernel panic : >> >> (I copy manually the interesting lines) >> >> " >> [...] >> Total of 2 processors activated (5825.50 BogoMIPS). >> ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs >> ..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=1 pin2=-1 >> ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC >> ...trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... failed. >> ...trying to set up timer as Virtual Wire IRQ... failed. >> ...trying to set up timer as ExtINT IRQ... failed :(. >> Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Boot with >> apic=debug >> and send a report. Then try booting with the 'noapic' option >> >> " >> >> It can happen while cold booting, while rebooting from macosX, while >> rebooting >> from GNU/Linux. >> >> Booting with apic=debug doesn't change anything in the kernel output >> before >> the panic. >> >> I observed this problem with the ubuntu 2.6.15.26 and a manually >> compiled >> 2.6.17.8. >> >> Is someone having the same experience ? > > Yes, this is a know problem. Unfortunately it is still there with the > current 2.6.18rc series, although less frequent. Now I only see it > after a warm boot or a power off quickly followed by a power on. > > Jurgen > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 21:20:39 +0200 > From: Jurgen Kramer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] key bounces, every char is doubled? > To: Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain > > On Mon, 2006-08-14 at 12:30 -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I haven't seen it every time, but my Mac Mini has a problem with its >> keyboard that every key I hit is sent twice. So if I hit "vi", the >> shell >> show "vvii", making the system unusable. >> >> Has anybody seen that? How can I fix it? >> > I am also having this problem again with the latest version of the Fedora > Core 6 development > rescue CD. If you boot the kernel with the parameters 'acpi=force' and > 'irqpoll' the problems > will be gone. 'irqpoll' will probably suffice. > > Jurgen > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:29:07 +0200 > From: "Ludovic Rousseau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] GPT vs MBR partitions > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 13/08/06, Ludovic Rousseau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is it possible to have the GPT and MBR not completely in sync? AFAIK >> the MBR can only contain 4 partitions and this is very limiting. My >> idea is to have 4 partitions in common and some more partitions in GPT >> only. >> >> I would like to have something like that: >> MBR: >> 0 firmware >> 1 Mac OS X >> 2 windows? >> 3 Linux boot >> >> GPT >> The 4 first partitions are the same as in the MBR >> 4 Linux swap >> 5 Linux home >> >> Since Linux knows about GPT it should see all the partitions. >> >> Will that work? > > I confirm it works. > > So you are not limited to 4 partitions in total but to 4 partitions > bootable from BIOS. You just need to have the Linux kernel (in /boot) > in one of 4 first partitions and you can have many GNU/Linux > installation on your system (I just tried with one). > > Bye, > > -- > Dr. Ludovic Rousseau > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 23:44:40 +0200 > From: "Ludovic Rousseau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Mactel-linux-users] boot camp and/or new firmware? > To: "Mactel-linux user list" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hello, > > In many documentations I read that Boot Camp is needed to boot from > BIOS. One good example is "2D/3D Acceleration works with BootCamp and > the latest ATI Drivers" on the main page of the Wiki [1]. > > I think the sentence is incorrect since Boot Camp is not needed at > all. Only the firmware upgrade to version 1.0.1 to allow a BIOS boot > is needed. Boot Camp is just a nice tool to repartition the hard disk > and burn a CD with Windows drivers. > > You do not need to install or use Boot Camp to use the ATI proprietary > driver or the VESA modes. > > Do you agree? > > Bye, > > [1] http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Main_Page > > -- > Dr. Ludovic Rousseau > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 17:52:31 -0400 > From: "Chris L. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] boot camp and/or new firmware? > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 8/14/06, Ludovic Rousseau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> In many documentations I read that Boot Camp is needed to boot from >> BIOS. One good example is "2D/3D Acceleration works with BootCamp and >> the latest ATI Drivers" on the main page of the Wiki [1]. >> >> I think the sentence is incorrect since Boot Camp is not needed at >> all. Only the firmware upgrade to version 1.0.1 to allow a BIOS boot >> is needed. Boot Camp is just a nice tool to repartition the hard disk >> and burn a CD with Windows drivers. >> >> You do not need to install or use Boot Camp to use the ATI proprietary >> driver or the VESA modes. >> >> Do you agree? >> > > I think the ATI drivers don't work without the pseudo BIOS. > > > Chris > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:21:15 +1000 (EST) > From: "Will Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Mactel-linux-users] sometimes macbook kernel panic on boot > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi all, first post and probably not replying with correct subject or > message history, please tell me what I should do in my replies/posts here > I havn;t been experienced enough with anything to post to mail groups > before :? :-). > > 1) Pierre, I am having the same issue here - apic panics not affected by > any append I can define - I have tried append with noapic and apic=noapic > and apic=debug from the lilo config and also the command line and never > seen anything different from somewhat random panics... Reboots usually > work. > > 2) I am using the MacBookPro17" with 120GB/2GB/ATI256M and > Gentoo/2.6.17.8vanilla patched from mactel-linux.org and BootCamp and > rEFIt/Lilo and I have lilo complications due to trying to change the lilo > config and then needing to remove things. I have a post about this at > linuxquestions. > > 3) By way of introduction I also have modular X (7.0)and Gnome 2.14 > working at 1680x1050 with accelerated proprietry ATI 8.27.something, > Atheros working with wpa_supplicant/madwifi-ng and synaptics (not really > ideal) and not worked out CD/DVD or keyboard properly yet. I think there > is a great divide between between highly experienced users who hack things > out quite naturally and people like me who are making the effort and > finding that constantly posting in forum topics (because there aren't any > dedicated discussion forums yet within our communities) is becoming > embarrasing ;-) > > Best Regards, > Will > > from apple //e to Mac Plus to the dark side to full circle MBP17 > > >> Send Mactel-linux-users mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mactel-linux-users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Mactel-linux-users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: MacBook Pro CPU temperature drivers for linux? do they >> exist? (Ludovic Rousseau) >> 2. Re: Mac Pro (Brent Hensarling) >> 3. Re: GPT vs MBR partitions (Junichi Uekawa) >> 4. key bounces, every char is doubled? (Stefan Monnier) >> 5. s2ram for Mac Mini? (Stefan Monnier) >> 6. sometimes macbook kernel panic on boot (Pierre Dinh-van) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 23:07:15 +0200 >> From: "Ludovic Rousseau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] MacBook Pro CPU temperature drivers >> for linux? do they exist? >> To: "Mactel-linux user list" >> <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> On 13/08/06, Jan Bernhardt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Ludovic Rousseau wrote: >>> > I have 47?C and a maximum of 53?C. >>> > >>> > How do you get the HDD temperature under Mac OS X? >>> > >>> You can use a tools such as Temperature Monitor >>> >>> http://www.bresink.com/osx/0TemperatureMonitor/download.html >> >> Ok. After reading a DVD so no HDD activity and very low CPU activity I >> have (under Mac OS X): >> HDD: 40?C >> CPU: 56?C and 57?C >> >> I think the difference for the HDD is because Mac OS X stops the HDD >> when possible. I do not have configured this under Linux. >> >> Bye, >> >> -- >> Dr. Ludovic Rousseau >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 14:49:34 -0700 >> From: Brent Hensarling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Re: [Mactel-linux-users] Mac Pro >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hey all, thanks for the responses. So far I have tried a few >> different distros, and seem to get the similar issues on all. I am >> trying to boot from the Ubuntu liveCD and it gets to the boot screen, >> I hit enter, and it starts to boot, but then I get alot of errors and >> a kernel panic. >> >> It stops at: >> >> " Looking for CD-ROM at /newroot/dev/hda..." >> >> and then waits a bit, then gives a bunch of these errors; >> >> " hda: cd-rom_PC_intr: The drive appears confused (ireason = 0x01)" >> >> then a bunch more errors ( can type them out if necessary), then; >> >> " Kernal panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init~" >> >> As I say, I get similar issues from other distros ( fedora 5 for >> example). >> >> Thanks for any help everyone. >> >> Thanks, >> Brent >> >> >> On Aug 11, 2006, at 2:59 AM, Tino Keitel wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2006 at 10:51:48 +0200, Zoltan Sekeres wrote: >>> >>> [...] >>> >>>> Ubuntu runs beautifully on the MacBookPro. I'm using it to test drive >>> >>> Fine. Now you can buy a MacPro (not MacBookPro) and answer the >>> original >>> poster's question. :-) >>> >>> Regards, >>> Tino >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> --- >>> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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So if I hit "vi", the >> shell >> show "vvii", making the system unusable. >> >> Has anybody seen that? How can I fix it? >> >> >> Stefan >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 13:22:05 -0400 >> From: Stefan Monnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [Mactel-linux-users] s2ram for Mac Mini? >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> Has anyone gotten S2ram to work on the Mac Mini? >> If so, could you tell me were the tricks necessary? >> >> >> Stefan >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2006 19:45:01 +0200 >> From: Pierre Dinh-van <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: [Mactel-linux-users] sometimes macbook kernel panic on boot >> To: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm using Ubuntu dapper on my Macbook 2GHz, in dual boot with mac os x >> using >> rEFIt (no bootcamp). >> >> I noticed that very often, the Macbook can't boot on my Linux kernel, >> stopping >> with a kernel panic : >> >> (I copy manually the interesting lines) >> >> " >> [...] >> Total of 2 processors activated (5825.50 BogoMIPS). >> ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs >> ..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=2 apic2=1 pin2=-1 >> ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not connected to IO-APIC >> ...trying to set up timer (IRQ0) through the 8259A ... failed. >> ...trying to set up timer as Virtual Wire IRQ... failed. >> ...trying to set up timer as ExtINT IRQ... failed :(. >> Kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Boot with >> apic=debug >> and send a report. Then try booting with the 'noapic' option >> >> " >> >> It can happen while cold booting, while rebooting from macosX, while >> rebooting >> from GNU/Linux. >> >> Booting with apic=debug doesn't change anything in the kernel output >> before >> the panic. >> >> I observed this problem with the ubuntu 2.6.15.26 and a manually >> compiled >> 2.6.17.8. >> >> Is someone having the same experience ? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> Pierre >> >> >> -- >> - M?langer 3 parts d'essence pour 1 part d'acide sulfurique. Agiter >> le tout jusqu`? d?gagement complet des gaz. >> - Boucher la bouteille, et la mettre dans un sachet en papier. >> - Saupoudrer fortement de chlorate de potassium. >> -------------- next part -------------- >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> Name: not available >> Type: application/pgp-signature >> Size: 189 bytes >> Desc: not available >> Url : >> http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum=mactel-linux-users/attachments/20060814/b6a7df8d/attachment.bin >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 8/14/06, Ludovic Rousseau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > In many documentations I read that Boot Camp is needed to boot from >> > BIOS. One good example is "2D/3D Acceleration works with BootCamp and >> > the latest ATI Drivers" on the main page of the Wiki [1]. >> > >> > I think the sentence is incorrect since Boot Camp is not needed at >> > all. Only the firmware upgrade to version 1.0.1 to allow a BIOS boot >> > is needed. Boot Camp is just a nice tool to repartition the hard disk >> > and burn a CD with Windows drivers. >> > >> > You do not need to install or use Boot Camp to use the ATI proprietary >> > driver or the VESA modes. >> > >> > Do you agree? >> >> I think the ATI drivers don't work without the pseudo BIOS. > > Sure. But is that pseudo BIOS installed by the firmware 1.0.1 upgrade > or by Boot Camp? > Where is stored the pseudo BIOS? in firmware or in a file on the disk? > > Bye, > > -- > Dr. Ludovic Rousseau > > > > ------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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