Thanks, Mark.  Yeah, it was beyond ridiculous, but at least the ending was a 
happy one. :)
Cheers,
Donna

> On Mar 30, 2024, at 9:26 PM, M. Taylor <markthew...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Donna,
> 
> I've been following this thread and I am so glad you got everything up and 
> running.  What a chore.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2024 6:46 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: More on the HomePod from hell
> 
> Hi Mary,
> 
> I wish I knew for sure.  I think some of my trouble was created by me.  I had 
> the “clever” idea Thursday night that if I could pair it with my old iPhone 
> 7, which I still keep around as a music player, it wouldn’t connect to our 
> home, but should be able to connect to our wireless network.  My hope was 
> that that would allow it to update, which would then allow me to reset it, 
> and set it up again using my iPhone 14 pro.  But, and I don’t totally 
> understand this, when you reset a HomePod, it still holds on to some of your 
> settings. So when I connected it to my Mac, it downloaded software version 
> 17.2, which, though not the current version was current enough for it to 
> connect with our home.  But, it still seemed to have had stuff from the 
> earlier pairing, so instead of updating, somehow it seems to have downgraded 
> our Home software, which meant that nothing worked. I do know that something 
> like that happened because after I finally got it to work yesterday, I was 
> prompted again to upgrade everything to the new home infrastructure.  At that 
> point it was late, and I was tired, so I reset the HomePod and went to bed, 
> leaving the Mini unplugged overnight and all the next morning.  When I 
> finally had time to get back to it, the setup worked.  It got setup in our 
> home, and then immediately updated.
> 
> By the way, re your stereo, we solved that problem by buying a Sonos amp.  My 
> husband built a pair of speakers when he was in college, and to this day I 
> think they’re some of the best speakers I’ve heard.  So, even though we 
> wanted to go to a wireless system, there was no way we were giving up those 
> speakers.  I don’t remember the price of the amp, but it works very well, and 
> gives us the option of having my husband’s speakers in our Home setup.  Just 
> thought I’d let you know that’s an option, in case it’s of interest. 😊 
> Cheers,
> Donna
>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 11:18 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> So how did you get your problem resolved, Donna? I know they finally figured 
>> out a way to charge iPhones in the store which is a good thing, since that 
>> caused a big mess. I don’t think they’ve done that with HomePods. So how did 
>> you get yours done? I still have my pair of old HomePods connected in the 
>> front room. I love old-fashioned stereo, and the HomePods don’t compare with 
>> my big fat great stereo speakers. The only problem is, they don’t make 
>> equipment that connects like that anymore unless you want to spend we big 
>> bucks. So, we’re stuck with all this wireless crap. This is not progress, 
>> but what can you do? 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 7:45 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Karen. It all worked out in the end. Well I respect your choice to 
>>> continue using your stereo, personally I love voice control. I love that I 
>>> can use it to do things and get more stuff done. We all choose the 
>>> technology that is most comfortable for us. Well I recognize that HomePods 
>>> may not be your choice, they were mine. And when we purchased this HomePod 
>>> mini, we had no expectation of the trials that awaited us. I do think 
>>> apples quality control has gone downhill a lot, and I think this is just 
>>> the latest example of that, unfortunately.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 6:47 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Donna,
>>>> I am deeply sorry this situation is so frustrating.
>>>> I  also respect your personal choices for your personal enjoyment of what 
>>>> the  Homepods provide for you.
>>>> Hopefully others will provide a path not requiring you to reconfigure 
>>>> everything from scratch.
>>>> Downloading an older edition of the software seems odd indeed.
>>>> Karen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> First of all, it appears that getting a full-sized one wouldn’t solve the 
>>>>> problem.  In the discussions I saw on the internet, both devices were 
>>>>> mentioned.  Second, when we’re in the kitchen, we’re usually also doing 
>>>>> other things, so there’s no real need to spend the money for full-sized 
>>>>> HomePod.
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:47 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ah, an understandable reason.
>>>>>> Thanks for sharing.
>>>>>> Curious why not simply getting a second full sized homepod would not 
>>>>>> work though?
>>>>>> Speaking personally if I ever reach that level of need, that they are 
>>>>>> not sold  in pairs automatically will either insure I get them, or skip 
>>>>>> the process all together smiles.
>>>>>> but hey I sill play my music on a stereo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We had one full-sized HomePod in the kitchen, which served as our 
>>>>>>> primary hub, and another in the family room.  We decided that in the 
>>>>>>> kitchen we could do with just a mini, and that would allow us to move 
>>>>>>> the kitchen HomePod to the Family room and create a stereo pair.
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 29, 2024, at 1:23 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ,Donna,
>>>>>>>> I have a question.
>>>>>>>> what need motivated your adding this new homepod in the first place?
>>>>>>>> What in your current set up was no longer working to your  
>>>>>>>> satisfaction leading to your needing a new option?
>>>>>>>> Just curious, especially given  this latest chapter.
>>>>>>>> Kare
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi again all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So, late last night I finally got my new Mini to download a more 
>>>>>>>>> current software version by connecting it to My Mac and using Finder. 
>>>>>>>>>  However, for reasons I can’t begin to fathom, it downloaded 17.2, 
>>>>>>>>> instead of 17.4, which is what the rest of my Home is running.  I 
>>>>>>>>> have my HomePods set to update automatically, so I figured I’d just 
>>>>>>>>> set it up, and it would update automatically overnight.  But 
>>>>>>>>> apparently that was too much to hope for.  Instead, it made a wreck 
>>>>>>>>> of my home in the Home app.  I have devices that have had multiple 
>>>>>>>>> names, as I have moved them to different rooms.  All those devices 
>>>>>>>>> reverted back to an older name.  And none of my accessories, other 
>>>>>>>>> than the HomePods are responding.  Does anyone have an idea what 
>>>>>>>>> happened or thoughts on a possible fix?  I’d really love to avoid 
>>>>>>>>> deleting my Home and setting it up from scratch.
>>>>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>>>>> Donna
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