On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:20:19 +0200 Quim Gil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ext pancake wrote: > > Hello Quim! > > Hi pancake, nice to see you around. :)
Yay :) > > It sounds quite strange to me to see that Nokia aims to free their > > flasher now.. after two years having a public and free flasher > > utility for the nokia internet tablets and receiving no support > > from Nokia or the community to port the flasher to other operating > > systems or architectures. > > It's all about priorities and context. Many things have changed at Nokia > since you released your flasher. At the time pushing the opening of the > official flasher would have taken a lot of effort and there were other > priorities. Now the context helps and the idea has been queuing for so > long that other priorities are solved now. > > About lack of community support, perhaps a joint project on the official > code would be more appealing? I understand that a flashing utility is maybe not the most priority task inside a project like this. With my project I tried to offer a free implementation of the flasher to and for the community aiming to bypass the operating system and architecture restriction offered by the blobs. So I think that it is a valid solution for closing these opened bugs, or at least allow mips, arm, powerpc and OSX users flash their Internet Tablets natively. > > The bug report will be closed if somebody owning a mac tries to > > build 0xFFFF from the sources. The only dependency is libusb, which > > is also available on OSX and the last thing I do for it was as GUI > > frontend, which is probably what OSX people is looking for. > > > > About architectures, I have tested my flasher on multiple architectures > > with different endians without any problem, so it should work on ppc > > and x86. > > Sure, but what if one day the architecture changes for whatever reason > and then you have your reverse engineered tool out of the game for new > releases? I'm not saying there are plans for such changes, but I guess > it's always more optimal that everybody works on the same tool. I think that 0xFFFF has filled a blank for two years. It is sad to see a project 'die', but it currently works and do more actions than the flasher-3.0 does and it was community I understand that having two flasher utilities available gives a choice to the user, but it will be easier to just maintain a single one. Btw I got fun while doing it and it was not that hard to implement it, so keeping in sync is not a hard job. After that, I can say that both projects can learn from each other and community will be beneficied by this. > > I assume that an unofficial flasher makes the community think that it > > can be a dangerous tool. But after two years of existence, nobody > > report me issues about bricked devices after using 0xFFFF as a flasher. > > > > As i read in the last update of the OS. Nokia provides now an OTA flashing > > utility which allows to update the device without using an external > > computer and USB. (i didnt update my n810 yet, but i would be interested > > to see how it works :) > > > > It is always good to see the intention of big companies freeing parts > > of their software, but I think that it is a bit late. > > Perhaps, but here we are with the offer. > > > I will be happy to see the evolution of the opening process of these > > closed parts of Maemo (not only the flasher) to allow the community > > enhace this wonderful software platform faster. > > Should we take this as a yes? :) Yes, I think that would be nice to have it free, as I said, both projects can learn from each other :) > About opening fiasco-gen, it might happen as well. We will start > releasing it as a binary. fiasco-gen? is this the firmware packer program? This is for example already done in 0xFFFF, as I said when releasing the flasher I think that would be nice to have the specs, or at least to open a discussion with the community to design a standard format. --pancake _______________________________________________ maemo-community mailing list maemo-community@maemo.org https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
