Hey, On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Jeff Moe <m...@blagblagblag.org> wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 January 2010 18:17:30 Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > 1. Maemo.org DNS should probably be on physically separate > networks, with redundant servers worldwide. DyDNS can do this cheaply, there > were other suggestions as well. > > Yes, would be very nice. Then the admins wouldn't have to wait for Nokia to > make the changes (which appear to be very slow) and could just do it > themselves directly. With DirectNIC (and likely most others), you can even > set the TTL in a *web form*. So days in advance the TTL could be set to one > hour, so in worst case that would be the longest people would keep stale > data in their caches. Click click! Done. > > > 2. The maemo.org repositories should be mirrored in the free > software community at places like Ibiblio or similar, to provide a measure > of redundancy. > > Yes. First step in this is to set up an rsync server. I have a sample > config here: > http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba/Espejo#rsync > > I also think that database dumps (say weekly) should be done of the wiki > and be available for download. I can dig up a SQL command (e.g. that leaves > out user/pass info) if you want. This way others can make backups and then > it could also be used with (the very cool) offline mediawiki viewer > evopedia. > > Basically, if infrastructure data can be put in an easily downloadable > format for copying, it should be. The more copies downloaded, the better. :) > > > 3. Whatever ISP is chosen to host the site should feel like a > stakeholder in the success of the maemo community. They should feel > motivated for things to work 24/7. > > Definitely. /me takes third swing: and just who is this ISP right now? I > know akamai is in the picture, but apparently someone else is hosting the > main part (e.g. the NFS/SAN ISP). I wouldn't even go as far as say they > should be a "stakeholder", they just need to provide industry standard > quality. Any ISP that isn't "motivated" 24/7 should be dropped. I think one > extended outage of the nature we saw over the weekend is enough even (e.g. > the hunt for a new ISP should begin immediately). > > > 4. The community should be allowed to help with the infrastructure. > Perhaps some services should be entirely released to the community? Or maybe > start using community resources like the SuSE OBS? > > The first part of this would be to document what is there already. Also, > document the current procedures (publicly--the IRC logs seem to indicate > there is an internal Nokia wiki with this info). I have a feeling if the > server move procedures had been public, lots of good suggestions would have > been made by the various sysadmins on this list (e.g. it appears they didn't > even think about changing DNS TTLs--surely many on this list would have > caught that). We apparently have people on this list who have managed > projects even larger than Maemo--their experience should clearly be > leveraged. "Many eyeballs make all bugs shallow" applies here too. > > > 5. Greater communication and transparency from the maemo staff. > > Definitely. Each move needs to be announced somewhere. For developer issues > (e.g. the builder, anything to do with SSH keys, etc.), this list seems an > appropriate place. For another announcements (e.g. the server move in > general) perhaps talk.maemo.org would be best in some stickied thread > until the move is over. Qaiku I think is about the worst place, as for > anyone to followup they need to get yet another account and there isn't > really a good mechanism for discussion in short "tweets". One excellent ISP > I use has a dedicated list to this--for example see: > http://frii.com/support/fta/ > > Also, perhaps I'm missing it, but it seems really hard to even figure out > who the maemo staff is. Perhap I'm missing the obvious wiki page with this > info (ala http://wiki.maemo.org/People ). Who is the paid maemo staff? > http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_team Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org > > Sincerely, your unpaid paying customer, > > -Jeff Moe > http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Jebba > _______________________________________________ > maemo-developers mailing list > maemo-developers@maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-developers >
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