2011/3/8 Balcaen John <balcaen.j...@gmail.com>: > Le Tuesday 08 March 2011 18:11:11, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :e > [...] >> Tsktsk, my post probably ends up being labelled as flamebait, troll, too >> long and boring, biased and what not.. > [...] > This list is not write only... I know, could've done better to get points across with shorter and greater consistence, which could've made it clearer that it was just as much an attempt at defusing a silly situation with some irony and sarcasm. > If you've got personnal problem with dmorgan just send him a personal > emadon'til i Nope, if I'd written better and focused on how to write rather than what written about I probably would've succeeded better that what I find consider as "silly" and "FUD" etc. doesn't really concern me that much beyond providing some notes in attempt of dismissing it (which gets rather complex for situations that's not very straight forward) and lack of interest in dwelling at them, I acknowledge and don't care.
> don't care, but i guess that ennael wrote 3 hours before this last mail from > you that mageia seems to have choose rpm.org so maybe we can really close this I'm not debating nor trying to influence any decission already done on this, Heck, I don't really think you find much references to me really attempting to do so in the past either, most of my posts anywhere related to it has usually just been answers to questions, comments to provide insights and honest offers of providing help and advice (and usually accompanied with the lack of interest in discussing or attempting to influence any decissions made clear). I'm simply *asking* for references to discussions concerning something that other people (ie. as in "not myself") has asked questions about somewhat semi-frequently asked for every now and then. > subject/thread for now instead of talking again & again about the fantastic > rpm(5).org feature/upstream/it's a revolution/another apple commercial I don't really see myself touting or pushing much of an agenda in rehashing any old discussions, I more than once explicitly make it clear (as I've done several times earlier as well) that's not my goal either. Asking for references on the discussion isn't something I find too appropriate, is it? I certainly have a technical interest in it and personal curiosity to satisfy. I'm even outlining that if the disussion took place somewhere else and if that's why there's no reference to it, that's okay. At the same time I must admit that I'm questioning whether these discussions that claimed to have taken place on the mailing lists several times actually ever did so. With often a lot of false criticism and FUD implying rather nonsense, I find it really disappointing and hard not noticing and pointing out, in addition to the given poor taste implied behind such claims to begin with.. I tried rather to get the actual information or at least hint at suggesting avoiding to make up such false information to begin with if that were the case without making it a really big issue. As you read it as something totally different, I'd rather speak my mind about something I otherwise intended to stear clear of.. > here/etc etc. > It's just boring... Well, given how my attempt at dismissing a situation that I find as unnecessarily silly tension obviously failed to begin with, I wouldn't be surprised that me trailing off and writing endlessly trying to discuss more technical matters again about a topic that's rather complex and of little interest to really discuss to begin with, I'm not surprised. I was none the less genuinly trying to raise some questions and awareness of concerns about the topic brought up as it's something I have quite great interest in and absolutely would like being able to discuss and possibly helping eachother out on. For someone that seems to want work on and having seemingly similar ambitions for similar goals, I'm just hoping for dmorgan to better understand and find the technical details interesting enough to not getting sidetracked by this crappy rivalry and extremely childish situation that created by others and that I refuse to take any responsibility for causing to begin with. Most people with proper attention and focus on what they're working on usually tends to be able to do so, so as said, not knowing him, I'm genuinly hoping to be positively surprised. :) And I certainly don't expect nor even want to attract the interest of other people beyond those with actual interest in and/or insight to discuss it to begin with. Throwing buzz words back and forth, while rehashing FUD isn't my idea of properly creating any constructive discussion that I'd have any interest in.. At least I *try* to mostly stay focused on *what* I attempt to, while not not being afraid to admit the nature of how I write it or personal bias, in attempt to not getting distracted by it. The standard response I've experienced on this list so far, with the exception of like 3-4 people, has pretty much been being ignored, or when I'm lucky like in this case, someone attacking me for all the things I actually never ever said and even stressed to urge make clear that I didn't mean to say either. At least it's somewhat of a progress with someone acknowleding the pink elephant in the room, even if claiming for it to be a completely unrelated rabid monkey for which I'm to blame for and not allowed to ask any questions about.. So in a summarized conclusion (and as it otherwise probably would be interpeted as something totally different): * First, cut the crap (people in general), get past it, we got better things to do. * Secondly, if you (dmorgan) really want to achieve the better things to do that you mention, I'd be happy to discuss details concerning it and I don't really care about the which fork nor version of whatever you prefer nor even if you like wearing womens underwear, it's in the end just not really that important at all, I'd still have the interest and would find it to be potentially useful and think I'd still be able to provide and give some help regardless. -- Regards, Per Øyvind