'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 11:40 did gyre and gimble: >> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 06/02/13 18:28 did gyre and gimble: > [...] >> What I guess we could to to avoid putting rsyslog on the physical media >> would be to put a versioned conflicts in the main systemd package with >> rsyslog and syslog-ng. Thus the old packages should be removed when >> upgrading (AIUI). > > not a really good idea imho, i have a server which uses rsyslog for > network remote syslogging... so upgrading that would break this.
Only if you upgrade without a network connection. Like I say this suggestion would only cover the cases where there was a desire to remove rsyslog from the physical media (to make room for other stuff). It's only an option tho'. I'm not suggesting it's a solution or not. > what about the tty12 bug? can this be fixed with journald? it seems to be > a feature that people don't want to lose? Not sure. I'll find out. It should be trivial really... i.e. all it really needs is a journalctl -f command run on tty12. You could craft an agetty command that worked like that easily enough, although there may be something more elegant that is more efficient and cleaner. Col -- Colin Guthrie colin(at)mageia.org http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/ Open Source: Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/ PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/