Thanks I had not restarted mailman.
Both patches were the ones in 10 and 11. 
What's strange is that the owner of the mailman qrunner process was not mailman 
me or root. In fact it was a person that had been added to the project recently 
in order to use samba but doesn't use uniix. 

Thank you for the help.

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decoding unicode (still) not supported bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/328353
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