>>>>> "Greg" == Greg Stark
>>>>> "Re: [Mailman-Developers] Re: Bounce removal parameters default values"
>>>>>  26 Sep 2003 12:45:46 -0400

    Greg> Barry Warsaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
    
    Greg> Causing valid bounces to be sent to the envelope sender

Is required by the standards.

    Greg> Instead the list that resent the message gets the bounce and
    Greg> processes it as a failed message -- which in fact is exactly
    Greg> what happened.

The mailing list is the envelope sender of mail sent to the list.  For
example the envelope sender of the mail to which this is a reply is

        [EMAIL PROTECTED]

which is correct and compliant with the standards.  A standards
compliant MTA will send any DSN (Delivery Status Notice) to that
address.

    Greg> It just shouldn't extrapolate from those messages to
    Greg> assuming the mailbox itself is down.

If any mail is rejected or bounced (ie, initially accepted for
delivery but later a DSN is returned indicating a delivery failure)
then that is a delivery failure.  If you do not like what your
receiving mail systems reject or bounce that is not a Mailman problem.

        jam


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