> From: Lindsay Haisley <fmo...@fmp.com> > On top of this, MS Outlook servers are, and have been for a long time, > a real PITA, notorious for long time for blocking emails on very flimsy > grounds. To the best of my knowledge, there's no fix for this at the > list-server level. > > The bottom line seems to be that the only email services which work > consistently with all recipients are those with deep pockets - Gmail, > Yahoo, Microsoft email, etc. If you have the money, you can buy a > better reputation for your IP addresses are address group, but it's a > money game.
Gmail is a major PITA last 12 months, (& yahoo etc long before) http://www.berklix.org/lists/#bad Greedy google forces all senders to @gmail to use DKIM/SPF so google can make more profit by reducing their staff admin cost. At cost of wasting time extorted from admins of all senders, forced to research advisability of adding SPF/DKIM to smtp (eg in my case sendmail) configs. I'm an unpaid admin with no free time to be stolen to profit google, I recall articles way back such as "SPF considered bad" but no free time to research now (as major personal events in train). gmail are literaly wasting my time & degrading my mailman lists. All @gmail addresses on berklix.org mailman lists have received nothing for a long time, blocked by google, & of course I can't email @gmail recipients to say why. If I get time, I'll write & post a small diff to hack the front page of generic Mailman source to add to Welcome pages such as http://mailman.berklix.org/mailman/listinfo a note such as: The above is a generic welcome to all global instances of Mailman. To see if there are notes specific to this server click here ___ I'm interested what independent mailman-users@ think on technical issues of DKIM/SPF, but `advice' from fined monopolist google Not wanted. http://www.berklix.net/search/#google -> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54619148 Cheers, -- Julian Stacey. Gmail & Googlemail Fail http://berklix.org/jhs/mail/#bad Brits abroad reclaim your http://StolenVotes.UK www.gov.uk/register-to-vote Arm Ukraine. Contraception V. Global warming & resource wars. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Member address: arch...@mail-archive.com
