>>>>> "Barnaby" == Barnaby Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Barnaby> However you seriously underestimate the technophobia of Barnaby> my members! Perhaps. I still think if they were given a chance to work with a system that was crafted to work for them, instead of against them, they would learn to use the technology quickly. Barnaby> Not surprising really, when you learn that we are all Barnaby> hand-makers of furniture - so by definition have turned Barnaby> our backs on much that is technical. So? Perhaps you don't know the etymology of the term "hacker". It's a self-deprecating analogy of one's programming to "making furniture by hacking at lumber with an axe." I don't think we hackers and you furniture makers are so different. Still, you face the problem that by and large the software your members can get their hands on is going to be pretty rude. Maybe you would be better off with a weblog or wiki-style website, which gives more control in some ways, and less in others. Certainly the setup cost would be higher than a mailman list, though. Barnaby> My task is to make sure that any one message can pass Barnaby> through the gate to the other list only once so that no Barnaby> loop could ever be established (even in the event of Barnaby> X-BeenThere headers being lost). Well, anything that can strip the X-BeenThere headers can make any other tag disappear, too. The only foolproof method is to pass one message in each direction, then shut down forever. However, one thing that is almost certain to appear in every message is a Message-ID, and unless you face an actively hostile agency, it probably will be preserved. So you could keep a database of message IDs that have been seen. If a message should arrive that doesn't have one, add one and record that. This is nowhere near foolproof, but in combination with the X-BeenThere strategy should do pretty well. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/