Wasting no time, I experiemented over the weekend with upgrading a clone of my test server (Power PC) from Mac OS X Tiger (10.4.x) to Leopard (10.5). It was not as smooth as could be and a number of configuration changes were needed and I still have a startup problem. However, once I work around the startup issue (#5 below), it all seems to be working.
1) Apple has changed all the application specific user IDs from ZZZ to _ZZZ (e.g. mailman becomes _mailman). This requires changes to Postfix (not a Mailman topic per se) and requires Mailman to be reconfigured and remade. 2) Xinetd is gone. If mailman or anything else was still being started via xinetd, it needs to be changed to start with launchd (launchd was introduced with Tiger). 3) Apache is now Apache2. The configuration file is /etc/apache2/httpd.conf rather than /etc/httpd/httpd.conf. Customizations in /etc/httpd/httpd/conf are not migrated. In addition, tighter directory security in Apache2 requires additional customizations to allow access to the Mailman directories (sorry, I don't have them handy to include in this note) 4) System shutdown does not seem to shutdown mailman cleanly anymore requiring a 'mailmanctl -s start' to get mailman going. I've changed my launchd startup file to add the -s. That obviously adds some risk but at least for my environment, it's minimal. 5) Startup is intermittently(?) failing due to what seems to be a Leopard, not mailman, issue. I'm not at all sure what that "Stray process" message means and have not turned up anything useful in a web search. Oct 29 07:36:46 Leoptest mailman[56]: Starting Mailman's master qrunner. Oct 29 07:36:46 Leoptest com.apple.launchd[1] (mailman[56]): Stray process with PGID equal to this dead job: PID 83 PPID 1 Python Nothing appears in the mailman logs but unless I'm mistaken, the "Starting Mailman's ..." message comes from mailmanctl so mailmanctl is launching but then dying with that "Stray process" error. The Leopard provided version of Python 2.5.1 and I have mailman 2.1.9. -- Larry Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: http://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org Security Policy: http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq01.027.htp
