On 05/20/2016 05:11 AM, John Griessen wrote:

Any ideas what would cause catjuggling-request: to fail where
catjuggling: "|/var/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post catjuggling"
works?

Here is the log from starting a new invite to j...@griessen.com.  the mail 
arrives as usual
from catjuggling-requ...@cibolo.us, and says "just reply".

May 20 10:12:32 localhost dovecot: lmtp(3639): Disconnect from local: 
Successful quit
May 20 10:12:32 localhost postfix/qmgr[1066]: 067D2618FF: removed
May 20 10:12:32 localhost postfix/smtpd[3632]: disconnect from 
mail-lb0-f191.google.com[209.85.217.191]
May 20 10:13:05 localhost postfix/smtpd[3636]: connect from localhost[::1]
May 20 10:13:05 localhost postfix/smtpd[3636]: 11BCC618FF: client=localhost[::1]
May 20 10:13:05 localhost postfix/cleanup[3637]: 11BCC618FF: 
message-id=<mailman.0.1463739184.3643.catjuggl...@cibolo.us>
May 20 10:13:05 localhost postfix/qmgr[1066]: 11BCC618FF: 
from=<catjuggling-boun...@cibolo.us>, size=1855, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
May 20 10:13:05 localhost dovecot: lmtp(3639): Connect from local
May 20 10:13:05 localhost postfix/smtpd[3636]: disconnect from localhost[::1]
May 20 10:13:05 localhost dovecot: lmtp(3639, j...@griessen.com): wnEeIg3jPlc3DgAA0J78UA: msgid=<mailman.0.1463739184.3643.catjuggl...@cibolo.us>: saved mail to INBOX
May 20 10:13:05 localhost dovecot: lmtp(3639): Disconnect from local: 
Successful quit
May 20 10:13:05 localhost postfix/lmtp[3638]: 11BCC618FF: to=<j...@griessen.com>, relay=mail1[private/dovecot-lmtp], delay=0.02, delays=0.01/0/0/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 <j...@griessen.com> wnEeIg3jPlc3DgAA0J78UA Saved)
May 20 10:13:05 localhost postfix/qmgr[1066]: 11BCC618FF: removed

When I reply I see nothing in the log.

Soon after, I send another list mail from  an established subscriber and see it 
immediately

May 20 10:21:39 localhost postfix/qmgr[1066]: B787C61956: from=<bounces+2655086-814c-john=cottagematic....@sendgrid.net>, size=1986, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
May 20 10:21:39 localhost dovecot: lmtp(3695): Connect from local
May 20 10:21:39 localhost dovecot: lmtp(3695, j...@cottagematic.com): aDfeMzPlPldvDgAA0J78UA: msgid=<573ee531.2050...@kitmatic.com>: saved mail to INBOX May 20 10:21:39 localhost postfix/lmtp[3694]: B787C61956: to=<j...@cottagematic.com>, relay=mail1[private/dovecot-lmtp], delay=0.19, delays=0.17/0.01/0/0.01, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 <j...@cottagematic.com> aDfeMzPlPldvDgAA0J78UA Saved)
May 20 10:21:39 localhost dovecot: lmtp(3695): Disconnect from local: 
Successful quit
May 20 10:21:39 localhost postfix/qmgr[1066]: B787C61956: removed


Could sendgrid ahve something to do with this?   Are they filtering my mails of 
a pattern that has been failing before?
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