Mark Sapiro wrote: Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:10:34 -0800 > On 01/12/2018 07:43 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > Is this live sample of an Uncaught bounce notification useful to > > forward to developers to extend pattern matching. > > > > http://berklix.com/~jhs/tmp/mailman/uncaught_bounce_notification/1 > > > Thank you for your report. In this case, the message that is an > "unrecognized bounce" is not an actual bounce of a list message. It is a > message (looks like spam)
Thanks Mark, It's not spam, but a bilingual German & English change of address, presumably from an auto responder from a subscribed address (I checked). as per From: Dave Dowdy <dddo...@tripled.de> > sent directly to the gea-chat-bounces@... Which I assume it got from list header of previous post to list: Errors-to: gea-chat-boun...@mailman.berklix.org Sender: "Gea-chat" <gea-chat-boun...@mailman.berklix.org> > address. This happens from time to time, but short of Mailman trying to > recognize spam sent to the -bounces address, there's nothing we can do, > and spam recognition and filtering is better done at the incoming MTA level. OK, I accept that spam filtering is best left to other tools, but this is not spam, but an auto responce from a subscribed address, so if mailman could recognise it automaticaly it would be nice. From: Grant Taylor Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:16:46 -0700 (19:16 CET) > > Is this live sample of an Uncaught bounce notification useful to > > forward to developers to extend pattern matching. > > > > http://berklix.com/~jhs/tmp/mailman/uncaught_bounce_notification/1 > > I highly doubt it. > > The bounce that is in the email you linked to looks to be more an > auto-reply than an actual bounce. > > The message that Mailman is considering to be an uncaught bounce does > not have any of the typical hallmarks of any DSNs or MDNs that I've seen. > > - It is a single text/plain, not the expected multipart/report. > - It is auto-replied (vacation), not auto-generated (failure). > - It looks like a message that a human wrote (in two languages.) > - It has an In-Reply-To header, which I've never seen in DSNs. > > My opinion is that this is the exact type of use case for a bounce > message to be escalated to a human. Thanks. At berklix.org I have no time for subscribers who consume list owners' time with auto responders, I like mailman to auto detect automatic response noise, & count & auto unsubscribe continuing noisy subscrbers. In case the sample is of use I will leave it here for a bit: http://berklix.com/~jhs/tmp/mailman/uncaught_bounce_notification/1 Cheers, Julian -- Julian H. Stacey, Computer Consultant, BSD Linux Unix Systems Engineer, Munich http://berklix.eu/brexit/ UK stole 3,700,000 votes; 700,000 from Brits in EU. Last time Britain denied votes led to American War of Independence. http://berklix.eu/queen/ Petition to get votes back. ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list Mailman-Users@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users%40python.org/ Unsubscribe: https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/mailman-users/archive%40jab.org