[07:00am] lindaD: hi [07:03am] stvn: hi [07:05am] • stvn wonders where cameron is [07:05am] CameronShorter joined the chat room. [07:05am] lindaD: HA! [07:05am] lindaD: good timing [07:05am] stvn: [07:05am] CameronShorter: Hi, sorry I'm late. [07:05am] CameronShorter: Had to pick my son up from the school disco [07:05am] stvn: oterral123: you here? [07:06am] stvn: heh [07:06am] lindaD: np I have been up most of the night with my son so I'm on the sleepy side myself [07:06am] CameronShorter: Is Schmitz with us? [07:06am] CameronShorter: ping drone? [07:07am] CameronShorter: Suggested agenda: [07:07am] CameronShorter: 00 Introductions, roll call [07:07am] CameronShorter: 05 Making it easier to give developers access to svn sandbox (Cameron) [07:07am] CameronShorter: 15 Handing Subversion branches for upcoming builds (Steven) [07:07am] CameronShorter: 25 Define next release [07:07am] CameronShorter: 40 General Q&A [07:07am] CameronShorter: 59 Topics for next meeting [07:07am] CameronShorter: 00 Close [07:07am] CameronShorter: topic 1: Access to the sandbox [07:08am] CameronShorter: I've talked with Chris Schmidt and it seems it is possible to limit access to particular develops. [07:08am] stvn: Does anyone know if we can separate access to sandbox from trunk? [07:08am] stvn: k [07:08am] Topic changed to "http://communitymapbuilder.org/"; by stvn. [07:08am] stvn was demoted from operator by stvn. [07:09am] CameronShorter: We might have issues setting it up on codehaus, but I suspect we will be able to do it. [07:10am] CameronShorter: The work around is to just have a policy of "only commit to the trunk if you have been given permission to do so, otherwise your commit rights will be revoked" [07:10am] lindaD: In Svn yes [07:10am] lindaD: you can do it by directory structure [07:10am] CameronShorter: back in 2 mins, got to tuck son into bed. [07:10am] lindaD: But what I don't know is how codehaus will want to do that fine grained access for us [07:11am] lindaD: I was wondering if we should have a second repository [07:11am] stvn: that's what I'm wondering about [07:11am] CameronShorter: back [07:11am] lindaD: then use svn externals to bring it into ours [07:11am] lindaD: so the people which have only sandbox rights will only have write access to the other repository [07:11am] CameronShorter: We can move our svn repository to the OSGeo site. [07:12am] lindaD: but they will never know that it is a separate repository [07:12am] lindaD: Do we then have direct access to the svn configuration files? [07:12am] lindaD: I have no problem stepping in and doing it [07:12am] CameronShorter: Linda, I'd expect so. [07:13am] lindaD: then we could have just one repository [07:13am] lindaD: and I will manage the directory access [07:13am] CameronShorter: Matt has a pretty free reign on the OSGeo site setting up the OSGeo demo URL and services. [07:14am] CameronShorter: ok, Let's start with some proposals: [07:14am] CameronShorter: 1. That any developer who wants access to the sandbox is given write access to the sandbox. +1 [07:14am] lindaD: does anyone know if we have fine grained access to the svn configuration files on codehaus [07:15am] lindaD: well my take is that they are given rights to *their* sandbox only [07:15am] stvn: we have ssh access to beaver iirc [07:15am] lindaD: hmmm I thought we lost that [07:15am] lindaD: or maybe I lost it [07:15am] CameronShorter: linda, I don't know, but I think we will get the access if we ask. [07:16am] CameronShorter: The service is something we want and other projects will probably want too, so people should be happy to have us set it up for them. [07:17am] lindaD: the other issue is diskspace usage on codehaus [07:17am] CameronShorter: Proposal 2: That any code put in the sandbox is committed under the same license conditions as the trunk. (This is to reduce issues later if we want to merge back into the trunk) [07:18am] stvn: 1: +1 [07:18am] stvn: 2: +! [07:18am] stvn: +1 even [07:18am] lindaD: each sandbox will be about 53M [07:18am] lindaD: +1 on license [07:18am] lindaD: I'm still on #1 here [07:19am] CameronShorter: linda, last time I read the svn book, I remember seeing that svn doesn't use up too much space on the sever when you branch because it just does references internally. [07:19am] lindaD: oh right [07:19am] CameronShorter: It may be an issue for someone downloading the enture sandbox locally though [07:20am] lindaD: If they do that then stupid points for them [07:20am] stvn: or just get a bigger HDD locally [07:20am] lindaD: exactly [07:21am] CameronShorter: Linda, would you like to investigate our technical options and provide a recommendation? [07:21am] lindaD: I will need to contact codehaus to see what the options are [07:22am] lindaD: perhaps when we add the codehaus chore to add the developer the project we can just say write access to [mapbuilder/ sandbox/USERNAME] [07:22am] CameronShorter: Comments from Chris Schmidt: [07:23am] lindaD: then when they get committer access to full repos [07:23am] CameronShorter: <crschmidt> CameronShorter: the AuthSVNAccessFile line is how we do the [07:23am] CameronShorter: > bits you were asking about [07:23am] CameronShorter: > <crschmidt> For SVN/trunk differences [07:23am] CameronShorter: > <CameronShorter> is AuthSVNAccessFile a svn feature, or something you [07:23am] CameronShorter: > have customised? [07:23am] CameronShorter: > <crschmidt> svn [07:23am] CameronShorter: He referenced: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ en/1.1/ch06s04.html [07:23am] lindaD: their write access would be changed to [mapbuilder] [07:24am] stvn: lindaD: sounds good [07:24am] lindaD: I am *guessing* that codehaus has it set up with svn-digest passwords [07:24am] lindaD: and svn-access.conf [07:25am] lindaD: if there is one svn-access.conf per repository then we would be able to do it ourselves [07:25am] CameronShorter: We will need to update our wiki to add another role: Committer and TrunkCommitter. Both will need to accept terms of not introducing invalid licenced code into the codebase. [07:25am] lindaD: if it is one file for the entire svn then it will be a codehaus chore to get it modified [07:26am] lindaD: right now we are all committers right? [07:26am] stvn: oui [07:26am] CameronShorter: right. [07:26am] lindaD: I would add SandboxCommitter role [07:26am] lindaD: which is the jailed user [07:26am] CameronShorter: Sounds good. [07:26am] stvn: k [07:27am] lindaD: ok I will talk with Ben et all in codehaus to see what our options are [07:27am] CameronShorter: Ok, thanks Linda. If you need any introductions to OSGeo people to continue your investigations, ping me and I'll sort it out. [07:28am] CameronShorter: (Probably not this week during FOSS4G) [07:28am] lindaD: if that falls through then we can explore changing our repos (Which I would like to avoid) [07:28am] CameronShorter: Next topic: Handing Subversion branches for upcoming builds (Steven) [07:29am] CameronShorter: stvn, do you want to talk to this? [07:29am] stvn: Since we're trying to release a stable version once again we do need to branch [07:29am] stvn: or stop developing new features in trunk [07:29am] CameronShorter: I think we should branch 1.5 [07:29am] stvn: I guess branching would eb a better solution [07:30am] CameronShorter: and continue development on the trunk [07:30am] stvn: I think we can just branchoff current trunk, AFAIK nothing radically new from RC2 is introduced [07:30am] CameronShorter: A stable branch should only be bug fixes and should eventually die off, which the trunk will continue for the life of the project. [07:31am] stvn: k [07:31am] stvn: the goal is to release 1.5 somewhere before xmas, so the branch will be reasonably shortlived [07:31am] CameronShorter: We have been doing quite a bit of development in the lisasoft sandbox which I'd like to merge back into the trunk before we develop too far. [07:32am] CameronShorter: I also have some bug fixes in there. [07:32am] stvn: is that 1.5 stuff or next release? [07:32am] CameronShorter: Mainly a next release, but there are one or 2 bug fixes. [07:33am] stvn: k [07:33am] stvn: I believe that apart from the RC@ code, the new proj4js/cscs4js code and revised getFeatureInfo code should be included into the 1.5 branch [07:33am] CameronShorter: Eg: WFS layers don't work due to the OL proxy not being configured by OL. We have a fix which sets the OL proxy to the MB proxy. [07:33am] stvn: RC2 [07:33am] stvn: k [07:34am] stvn: shall I start tagging and branching this week? [07:34am] CameronShorter: Steven:yes. [07:35am] CameronShorter: Is the proj4j code in the trunk already, or somewhere else? [07:35am] stvn: I won't include /archive in the branch [07:35am] stvn: proj is in trunk [07:36am] CameronShorter: The new proj4js code is in the trunk too? [07:36am] stvn: I've to go in 5m [07:36am] CameronShorter: ok [07:36am] CameronShorter: I think we are almost done. [07:36am] CameronShorter: Any more issues to cover? [07:36am] stvn: yeah at least as far as Mike has committed it [07:37am] stvn: not from me, waiting for stories from foss4g [07:37am] CameronShorter: Steven, you might want to drop in on the webmap discuss BOF. [07:37am] stvn: when/where is that? [07:38am] CameronShorter: Chris Schmidt was going to set up a skype or similar. [07:38am] stvn: k, but I guess it'll be around 3am-ish [07:38am] CameronShorter: In 12 hours. [07:38am] CameronShorter: 4:45pm Vancouver time. [07:38am] stvn: ah that's 1AM [07:39am] stvn: will see if I'm still awake by then [07:39am] CameronShorter: Actually, not 12 hours. [07:40am] CameronShorter: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/ meetingtime.html?month=9&day=25&year=2007&p1=0&p2=240&p3=16&p4=256 [07:40am] stvn: even worse [07:40am] CameronShorter: ah - 1.45am [07:41am] stvn: k, gottogo [07:41am] stvn: thanks all [07:41am] CameronShorter: ok, bye. [07:41am] lindaD: I'm entering the Question to codehaus now [07:41am] lindaD: will let you know what they say. [07:41am] lindaD: Do you have ssh access to beaver? [07:41am] lindaD: Cameron I"m looking at you [07:42am] CameronShorter: is beaver the OSGeo box? [07:42am] lindaD: codehaus.org [07:42am] CameronShorter: no, not that I'm aware of. [07:42am] lindaD: ok I know I used to, but my memory is that it was taken away [07:42am] CameronShorter: yes, I think you are right. [07:43am] lindaD: I know I used it when I did the initial svn import from sourceforge [07:46am] lindaD: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/HAUS-1574 [07:46am] lindaD: is the ticket [07:46am] lindaD: will let you know what they say [07:46am] CameronShorter: k [07:46am] lindaD: Anything else? [07:47am] CameronShorter: not from me. [07:47am] CameronShorter: You didn't get to FOSS4G? [07:47am] lindaD: I think we are agreed that if codehaus grants us the finer grained write access that we will do it at the level of [07:48am] lindaD: no Patrice nor I went [07:48am] lindaD: level of /mapbuiler/sandbox/USERNAME [07:48am] lindaD: that way we know they are jailed into their own world [07:49am] CameronShorter: I'd give access of SandboxCommitters to all of the sandbox, not just their own directory. [07:49am] lindaD: your call [07:49am] CameronShorter: I know when I was working on OL, I was collaboratively working on sandbox code with other sandboxCommitters. [07:49am] lindaD: ok [07:50am] lindaD: fair enough [07:50am] lindaD: will change the ticket [07:50am] CameronShorter: And I've currently set up a sandbox/ lisasoft directory where 4 lisasoft developers are working. [07:50am] gjvoosten joined the chat room. [07:50am] lindaD: ok [07:51am] CameronShorter: Hi Gertjan [07:51am] lindaD: err I cannot change the ticket I just created?? [07:51am] gjvoosten: Hi guys 'n gals, sorry I'm late, had to handle a customer call... [07:51am] CameronShorter: Can you add a comment to it? [07:51am] lindaD: yea that seems to be the only option [07:52am] CameronShorter: Gertjan, I thought you must have got a ticket to FOSS4G. That is where all the good developers are. [07:52am] gjvoosten: CameronShorter: Is someone logging the meeting? The Uwyn drone seems to be out, at least I don't see a transcript of today on the site... [07:53am] lindaD: I have it in Colloquy right now [07:53am] gjvoosten: Nope, sorry, no budget for FOSS4G unfortunately. [07:53am] gjvoosten: Thanks Linda; please post to the list afterwards. [07:53am] lindaD: ok [07:54am] CameronShorter: Gertjan, is there anything you want to discuss in the last 5 mins? [07:55am] gjvoosten: Ah yes, does anyone have any feedback on the memory leak fixes I committed? [07:55am] CameronShorter: not me. [07:55am] gjvoosten: Especially Steven and Andreas (although I see Andreas is not in today). [07:55am] lindaD: sorry no [07:55am] lindaD: Steven had to go [07:56am] gjvoosten: No problem, I will email them and ask. [07:56am] CameronShorter: Andreas is at FOSS4G [07:56am] gjvoosten: Oh yes, lucky him! [07:57am] CameronShorter: ok, I off. Good night/day/morning all. [07:57am] lindaD: wait [07:57am] gjvoosten: Yes? [08:00am] lindaD: ok well signing off ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ mapbuilder-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/mapbuilder-devel
