Hi Marc, Le 20/12/2014 14:59, Marc Paré a écrit : [...] > Phew ... coming in really late on this discussion and having read the > other recent comments elsewhere, > > I also agree with KJ that there is no need to hurry. IMO, better to give > people enough lead time and time to develop nice templates is better > than to push for a fast submission. At least making the contest result > for the roll-out of 4.4.1 will allow the serious template designers some > time to submit quality work rather than hurried work. I can't imagine a > serious template developer hurrying with a template submission and > compromising quality ... we risk getting submitted templates that are > more alpha-early-beta than getting polished templates ready for > user/commercial use.
Yes, that was a late request but let's go for it. The issue is that the Start Center has a new button for templates and the folder will be empty under several components. That will solve this for the en_US version which is the most downloaded. The localized versions will have an empty folder and the contest will work for them later. > > We often worry about lack of community involvement, but, when there is a > wonderful occasion where community involvement with such a contest where > there is a low-entry level of understanding of LibreOffice and where > template usage is directed towards our users, we do not even provide > users the chance to vote on a template contest ... surely a users idea > of what a good and purposeful template would be different from a > designer's perspective. I'm not sure users are aware of all the needed things to have a reliable template and one that could be localized too, so the best way would be that the design team does a pre selection and let the users vote only on the templates that complies. > > IMO, I would even be in favour of pushing this to 4.4.2 or later to > leave ample time for user voting ... templates usage are always driven > by user usage, and users are quick to recognize the utility of a good > template, they would need some time to experiment with any submitted > templates before voting. > > IMO, the template contest is being put on in too much of a short > time-frame, will have no community-building value to it -- the users > will not even have a say as to which template(s) they find useful. That could be done later with the localization too, which is quite a huge work. > > Why not just call the contest, and, as newly submitted templates come > in, have the designer team do a quick test to QA their addition to the > 4.4.x series, and then have users vote on the most useful template > sometime around 4.4.2 or 4.4.4 ... this will give users enough time to > try out the templates and we will gain more in community involvement. It > would not stop the designers from voting on their choice of template, > which could still be run in conjunction with the user choice. yes, this is how I see it too. > > I also worry that we are giving our user base the impression that > contests such as these are put on quickly without proper lead time ... I > am not sure it helps our brand that is highly recognized and respected. > Sometimes, taking a little extra time will help show our user base that > we value quality and that our contests are taken seriously. There will be a follow-up for the next versions, so I guess we should consider this contest as a kick-off for the others that will be organized. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org Tel:+33683901545 Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
