Ravi,

You are right about signal being a centralized service.
Is Jabber encrypted? Is there a federated and encrypted alternative for
Signal?

Met vriendelijke groet,
With kind regards,
Boudi van Vlijmen.

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Op wo 29 dec. 2021 om 21:30 schreef Ravi Dwivedi <r...@ravidwivedi.in>:

> On 28/12/21 3:32 pm, Clocked Modular wrote:
>
>  > I recommend integrating Signal into LibreOffice rather than email. We
>  > should look at Google and Apple for what the market is doing. Not the
> old
>  > dinosaurs like IBM and Microsoft are pointing the way, but they are.
>
> You are recommending integrating something which is centralized and in
> control of one single entity(Signal) rather than something which is
> decentralized and federated(email).
>
> We can integrate matrix/xmpp/IRC chats rather than Signal. As far as the
> matter of convenience or registering via phone number is concerned,
> Quicksy https://quicksy.im/ can be used which is a part of XMPP family.
> People who want convenience can use Quicksy and register via phone
> number, while others like me who don't want to register via phone number
> can register on another xmpp service(or they can have their own server)
> and still talk to Quicksy users.
>
> Signal maybe good for now but we cannot guarantee it will continue to be
> as good. It is effectively a lock-in, which is a problem of
> centralization. In future if the Signal service gets compromised(like
> change of the owner of the company might change their values or they
> might change something about Signal that you do not agree with), nobody
> bothers to switch.
>
> Quicksy is a brilliant hack which offers both convenience and freedom.
>
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