On 3/11/10 7:05 PM, Frederick Grose wrote:
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:03 PM, josh williams <j...@tucson-labs.com
<mailto:j...@tucson-labs.com>> wrote:
From what I could gather, Bernie was just making suggestions for
what a site wide navigation could look like. I actually like
Bernie's idea of making it more like google's universal nav. I
think something like the following would work well:
Home Wiki Download Activities More >
The more link would be a drop down of all our other sub domains.
At any rate I'm almost done with http://wiki-devel.sugarlabs.org/
- so any information on how to edit the main navigation would be
very helpful. We can push the changes without changing the main
nav once I get finished bug checking, but I think leaving it as it
is makes the wiki more confusing than it needs to be.
--
Josh
(Dropping systems@ and adding marketing@, as this is more of a design
discussion.)
Thank you Josh for your contributions to Sugar Labs!
No problem. Thank you for you input about the design and pointing me in
the right direction!
I must admit that I would prefer to see a bit more of the Sugar style
elements maintained or added to the Sugar Labs wiki skin.
The proposed skin at http://wiki-devel.sugarlabs.org/ has lost many of
the style elements found in our product, Sugar, as expressed in The
Sugar Interface/Controls
<http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Human_Interface_Guidelines/The_Sugar_Interface/Controls>.
In particular, the bold strokes of the Sugar icons on the tabs, the
dark background of the Sugar toolbar with gray-scale icons, and colors
holding special meaning
<http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Human_Interface_Guidelines/The_Sugar_Interface#Imbuing_Color_with_Meaning>.
I like that the proposed skin includes the single-line logo (hoping
also that it can be placed so that it also works with the very common
monobook skin and others).
Among our sister sites, my favorites for header and navigation
linkbars are http://translate.sugarlabs.org/ and
http://git.sugarlabs.org/ (primarily because they both seem to use
bold underline strokes on the event of mouse pointer hover, and their
dark backgrounds remind me of the Sugar toolbar). I'd prefer that the
bright colors of links carry 'special meaning' by being revealed on
hover, indicating the appropriate time for user participation, that is
a click of a mouse button. The current header navigation links at
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ and most of the current tab links have this
behavior, but need the bolder strokes and underscores of the translate
and git headers. Having the descender on the 'g' hang over the
bottom of the header area at the translate does add a bit of spice,
even if it flirts with the Marketing Team's Logo guidelines
<http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo>.
In the content areas, to keep a clean, uncluttered, and easy-to-read
page (especially because of descenders on the typeface), I prefer to
have the underscores appear on links only when they are activated by
mouse hover. In the proposed skin, compare, for example, the greater
ease of reading those links on the sidebar versus the links in the
table of contents box.
Thank you for considering the thoughts and preferences I've presented
above.
--Fred
Thanks for your feedback, I've already made some changes based on your
comments. I'm with you on having the underscores only appear on hover
for the main content, but there's a really big usability problem there
for color blind people or users with a grayscale monitor. If you go to
http://sugarlabs.org on the XO and set the screen to gray scale it's
extremely difficult to find links because there's no visual cue other
than color.
Josh
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