Robin,

You just hit on my points, I thought this was the feeling everyone was
getting.

Ok I'm going to push through dev and marketing mailing lists to close up
proposals, I'll also ask dev thread to give feedback in the cwiki
comments.  You'll get even more feedback this way.
But know, not all comments will be nice, and not all feedback should be
taken... some people just have really bad design ideas/comments haha.

Samer

On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Robin Fowler
<audio.fow...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> I've updated my proposal with a website overhaul (just the homepage for
> now).
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/01+-+Design+Proposal+Robin+Fowler+-+12.02.2013
>
> I'm willing to push this forward, but it won't work without feedback. I
> have had no feedback so far on the branding proposal so i have no clue
> whether it's something there's interest in or not. I have to know that we
> can agree on my design (or anyone else's design) before I (we) put more
> work into it. Otherwise it's potentially a huge waste of time.
>
> If we can collectively agree on certain proposals then we can concentrate
> on refining and implementing them. I liked the way people gave feedback for
> my logo design, that really enhanced it. I think more of that is needed,
> regardless of whose design we're talking about.
>
> Robin
>
> On 20 Feb 2013, at 12:50, Kadal Amutham <vka...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Regarding restructuring the various pages, kindly let me know how pages
> > need redesign. Among us there is a good graphic designer (I forgot his
> > name. Is it you?)  . With his help I can carry on the job with proper
> > monitoring guidance from you and Rob Weir.  I can do the layout of the
> > contents, bring the functionality etc.
> >
> > Anybody has good knowledge in Joomla! For the past few weeks I am
> learning
> > it. But I find lot of limitations in using it. But it may be easier to
> > design attractive sites using Joomla! by importing / buying good
> templates
> >
> > With Warm Regards
> >
> > V.Kadal Amutham
> > 919444360480
> > 914422396480
> >
> >
> > On 20 February 2013 16:17, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2/12/13 5:48 PM, Robin Fowler wrote:
> >>> Ok I've done it this way. If someone would prefer a different structure
> >> just let me know, but i think it makes sense.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO4+-+Complete+Design+Proposals
> >>
> >> thanks, I think having all proposals in a similar form will help us to
> >> make a decision.
> >>
> >> I believe we need somebody who takes leadership for this branding
> >> refresh project and drive it.
> >>
> >> I proposed a schedule for AOO 4.0 on the dev list and aligned with this
> >> we should have a new logo (intro, splash screen, about) and new app and
> >> file icons in place until April 4th. Time is going forward and we should
> >> push this. It's an important piece for the release.
> >>
> >> Who is interested to drive this forward and will push the necessary
> steps?
> >>
> >> I don't have really the time for it and I believe others can do it
> >> better than me. The key point is that somebody drives it and keep it
> >> focused to a date and to find a decision.
> >>
> >> We will have probably several proposal which all have their advantages.
> >> People will have different opinions about the different proposals and
> >> that is normal. But in the end we need ONE consistent new branding with
> >> the design elements
> >>
> >> - logo, for different use cases (intro screen, start center, about,
> >> webpage, wiki, blog, merchandising, ...)
> >> - application icons
> >> - file icons
> >> - ??
> >>
> >> Juergen
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Robin
> >>>
> >>> On 12 Feb 2013, at 15:45, Jürgen Schmidt <jogischm...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 2/12/13 4:35 PM, Robin Fowler wrote:
> >>>>> I have made a more complete design proposal with colours, icons, and
> >> some basic guidelines (it's all in one file) and have no idea where to
> post
> >> it. I could either put it in one of the existing pages or create a new
> one
> >> for complete design proposals. Any suggestions?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I would prefer one sub page for each proposal and an overview of all
> >>>>
> >>>> Juergen
> >>>>
> >>>>> Well done on the structuring btw.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Robin
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9 Feb 2013, at 12:32, Andrea Pescetti <pesce...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 08/02/2013 Samer Mansour wrote:
> >>>>>>> Ok I just cranked away at it for a couple hours collecting where
> AOO
> >>>>>>> branding is applied.
> >>>>>>>
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Branding+Planning
> >>>>>>>
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Apache+OpenOffice+4.0+Brand+Refresh+Project
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Very nice pages (and subpages), thanks for taking the lead here.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As for the selection process, I agree with Rob (and those who
> >> proposed it earlier) that it's better, also for publicity and for
> putting
> >> low entry barriers, to ask volunteers to provide at least a basic logo
> as a
> >> start, shortlist a few (about 3) proposals and get a more complete
> branding
> >> proposals for those ones, before the final selection is made.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Andrea.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>

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