[Marxism-Thaxis] Oudeyis >
-clip- Describing their accomplishment in a dialectical form, the materialism of Marx, Engels and Lenin is not a statement about the world but about the unity of logical and physical and sensual activity in human labour (practice). NOTE, THAT THE ISSUE OF THE RELEVANCE OF LOGIC (DIALECTICS) TO HUMAN HISTORY IS NOT A MATTER OF THE NATURE OF THE WORLD BUT OF MAN'S INTERACTION WITH THE WORLD. ^^^^^ CB: For me, this is a good way to say it. I would just add that their attitude was that the best way to conclude "what the nature of the world " is is to see what "works" in the world in practice. This is very clever, cunning, desirable to follow, as human's have no interest in "the nature of the world" except in human interaction with the world. ^^^^ As regards the universality of the laws of dialectics: The abstract laws of dialectics are universalities. We may like McTaggart find them less than perfect, but whatever the modifications, revisions and so on we may make on dialectics is a matter of dealing with universals. That dialectic processes may produce divergent truths is a different issue from the universality of the logical process itself. To understand the emergence of divergent dialectically arrived at truths, we must recognize the diversity of objects and subjects of dialectical activities. Science, the development of practical knowledge, has as its object the realization of men's needs in the transformation of the material world, or, in other words the realization of the needs of men that are ultimately the function of his being a part and force in nature through the transformation of nature in conformance to the specifications implied by those needs. All the components of this description; the object and subject of the activity described, the means and ends of scientific activity, involve states universal to men and to the subject of his activity, hence divergence in science is always a temporary product of differentiated and limited practical experience. For science truth, temporary as it may be, is found in effective practice. ^^^^^^ CB: This is fundamental for Marx, Engels , Lenin: Theses on Feurerbach, Anti-Duhring, Materialism and Empirio-Criticism. ^^^^^^^^^ The divergencies of the dialectics of ethics (ideality) on the other hand are an inevitable and irresolvable consequence of all the differentiating forces that emerge in human social life; the gender distinctions, the division of labour, ethnic segregation, and so on. True, the methods of Natural Science of History, Historical Materialism, can provide scientific universals that enable the development of theory and practice to produce, regulate and revise these distinctions, but these universals, theories and practices should never be confused with the arguments of the dialectics of ethics (the main object of Hegel and to a considerable extent of Kant). In general, where we find irreconcilable (in practice) dialectical arguments we have entered into a debate over ethics or ethos rather than over a scientific issue. Dialectical arguments of this sort are properly the realm of religion and traditional philosophy, classic materialism being an example of the latter. Regards, Oudeyis ^^^^^^^ CB: What do you think of treating ethics as a category of practice , since ethics deals with what people as does practice ? _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis