Dear Ralph, you can write to Savas ( e...@ath.forthnet.gr ) and arlene clemesha ( aec...@hotmail.com ) to know if the first has an English version of his article and the second an English version of her book, or an article in English related to your research. I have never met them but they know me because I have translated articles from them for the journal Ni patrie ni frontières. So you can quote my name... The Jewish Question has been recently republished with articles and prefaces notably for the Trotskyist philosopher and 4th international leader Daniel Bensaid but they are in French, as far as I know. Enzo Traverso has extensively written on the Jewish question and I see that some of his books are translated in English but I cant remember if he has explicitly written about the Jewish Question of Marx. I'll check Will look if I find any interesting things in French about your subject. Yours Yves
Le 17/11/09 11:53, « Ralph Dumain » <rdum...@autodidactproject.org> a écrit : > > Thanks. I got some main ideas out of a cursory > scan of this article, but I'm confused at other > points. Also, I didn't follow the historical > exposition too closely. If I could read this is a > bone fide English translation I'd do better. I'll > just note the points that leapt out at me. > > 1. The author counterposes pseudo-materialist > interpretations to idealist-culturalist > conceptions, suggesting that both must be > transcended. On the face of it I agree. I am > uncertain about what his final view is, though. > > 2. He singles out Abram Leon as having the most > sophisticated historical explanation, dissenting > however from the notion of a people-class. > > 3. The quotation from Rosa Luxemburg reveals an > underdeveloped aspect of Marxism, not only on the > Jewish question, but on national questions > generally. Without unpacking Luxemburg's meaning, it seems incredibly obtuse. > > 4. The author correctly points out that Marx's > article on the Jewish Question is not entirely > Marxist but marks a turning point in the break from Hegelianism. > > Furthermore, he claims: "Après Marx, les > marxistes, à quelques exceptions près (dont > Trotsky durant les années 30), n'ont pas analysé > de façon exhaustive et profonde cette base > séculière réelle." [After Marx, the Marxists, > with few exceptions (including Trotsky during the > 30s) have not exhaustively analyzed this deep and genuine secular basis.] > > And of course he goes on to elaborate on this > secular basis. But I want to point out something > about Marx's essay. It is purely schematic in its > contrast and positing of the relationship between > the Sabbath and secular Jew, because in > actuality, aside from not taking the trouble to > describe the secular Jew in other than > generalized stereotypical terms, Marx simply > states that the Sabbath Jew is an illusory > self-image of the Jew, contrasted with the real > Jew, but without actually relating the material > basis of Jewish existence to the form of > consciousness known as Judaism, so as such fails > to account at all for this religious illusion in > the past or in the present, and most importantly > its persistence from one epoch to a radically different ones. > > 5. The author does at some point relate the Old > Testament as a form of consciousness to the > material existence of the Jews in antiquity, and > later, I think, but I do not understand this exposition. > > > At 04:08 PM 11/16/2009, yves coleman wrote: >> http://www.mondialisme.org/spip.php?article1315 >> >> Here you will find many texts about the socalled Jewish question but in >> French, translated from English, Spanish, Portuguese and Italian. >> Specifically about your subject maybe you will find of interest the text of >> Savas Michael-Matsas a Greek marxist (trotskyist) which has an original >> point of view, even if I strongly disagree with his political views on >> Israel today. >> >> You also have a book of Arlene Clemesha (a Brazilian Marxist) but in >> portuguese.... > > > _______________________________________________ > Marxism-Thaxis mailing list > Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu > To change your options or unsubscribe go to: > http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis > _______________________________________________ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/marxism-thaxis
