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I won't try to figure out who said what when and what they actually meant. But maybe we can agree on the facts of the matter (or if not, seek further evidence for discussion). There is no doubt that some Syrian revolutionaries have had MANPADS and used them, but it also appears clear that these must have been so few in numbers that the Syrian pilots dropping barrel bombs had little reason to be concerned. It would have been different if even a small portion of such weapons "missing" in Libya had made their way to the Syrians, and there were enough Libyans who would have been eager to supply them. So the conclusion is that the US not only didn't act to supply MANPADS to the Syrians, but (as has been documented) actively prevented such shipments, for the very reasons they openly offer (fear of them landing in the hands of al-Q'aida). And furthermore, not only were there were so few but they were delivered to groups other than ISIS, which is why ISIS apparently never possessed any, and which therefore is why we haven't seen them used in Iraq. I believe that was the point Louis was making. - Jeff At 16:10 17-08-14 -0700, DW via Marxism wrote: > >Louis: >"...isn't it odd that not a single one of these weapons have been used >against jets and helicopters in Iraq?" > >Then you wrote: >"Except that this is not what I said. I said that there is no evidence that >a "rat line" existed." > >Then I wrote these weapons being...MANPADS. I showed you are wrong and >factually inaccurate about what you in fact wrote. > >David ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com