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Amen Gary, and then Smith comes up with another great sentence to explain what's happening: " So the only conceivable excuse for waiting this long is for Tsipras to attempt to save himself." but thanks to Ralph for sharing the article; it does bring together a lot of information. Dayne On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Gary MacLennan via Marxism <marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > Well Einde, > great minds think alike! I disliked t his article intensely. Not to say > though, that I think Syriza has been a tad naive. They should always have > borne in mind that they were dealing with the enemy, even though they > could not say that publicly. > > This was always a political crisis first and foremost and I wonder if > Tsirpas truly understood that (?). > > Nonetheless, all criticism to one side, there can be doubt who the good > guys are here and that is the Greek people. May they prevail. > On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Einde O'Callaghan via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: >> >> On 27.06.2015 21:39, Louis Proyect via Marxism wrote: >>> >>> On 6/27/15 3:30 PM, Ralph Johansen via Marxism wrote: >>> >>>> Tsipras’ Bailout Referendum Sham >>>> Posted on June 27, 2015 by Yves Smith >>>> >>>> http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/06/tsipras-bailout-referendum-sham.html >>>> >>>> >>> "Greek defiance of its creditors will make it more, not less dependent on >>> them in the next year." >>> >> >> That one sentence has made me decide that this article isn't worth >> reading. Obviously the election of Syriza and the struggles accompanying it >> were a complete waste of time and the best policy for the Greek working >> class would have been simply to accept any shit the Troika threw at them. >> Struggle is pointless - we might as well all give up - socialism is >> impossible. >> Or have I somehow misinterpreted the ultimate conclusion of this type of >> argument? >> >>> So, it was more radical not to defy the creditors? Gosh, Naked Capitalism >>> is more dialectical than I could have imagined. _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com