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Both Louis & Ken are right. Our future is desperate & Ken is right that we have to be able to get people ready to work up. The left has not been able to figure out how to extend the dialogue. I suspect culture, movies or music, properly done, could open up some doors. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Ken Hiebert via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > Louis Proyect said: > The pure insanity of the capitalist system. Melting ice in the Arctic > spurs drilling for more oil that will lead to more greenhouse gases. We > are fucked. > > Ken Hiebert replies: > There may be powerful reasons for despair, but I am sure Louis does not > intend for us to give up. Despair and resignation might cause some people > to turn entirely to individual pursuits. If I believed that there was no > hope at all, I might be tempted to take the money and become a climate > change denier. What difference would it make, other than to make my life > more comfortable while we wait for the end? > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/michael.perelman3%40gmail.com > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 530 898 5321 fax 530 898 5901 http://michaelperelman.wordpress.com _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com