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Everything folk are saying about Bernie Sanders is probably very true. He aint ridgy didge. Of course: this is the Democratic Party. But that is missing the point -- the tacticial point. He just won in New Hampshire https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/61056 ...and there is a conversation going on that you/we have to engage with. Say whatever you like about Sanders (I do) but it behoves us not to sit on our hands or denigrate from the sidelines. Formula-by-numbers propaganda does not cut the mustard. Under the Sanders banner is all those MILLIONS of people you want to/we want to build a socialist option among...or even (god forbid) a broad left party. And i say that not because he is simply a Democrat populist -- but because he has moved the dialogue a tad outside the constraints of neoliberalism and austerity. That he calls himself a 'socialist' -- while a handicap -- is also a handy and useful plus. "You want to talk about REAL socialism...!" What if Sanders had stood as an independent...or for the Green Party? Done the Camejo/ Nader thing? Even with the same politics? The same rhetoric? Would he be so much the persona non grata? And where does the Sanders groundswell go when whatever happens? Seriously: where? dave riley _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com