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All these issues are taken up in Climate & Capitalism frequently: http://climateandcapitalism.com/ But I'd add a few comments: (1) One of the complications of the 'nationalisation' demand is that power industries targeted are not ensconced in an expanding market as there is a profit damaging shift to renewables. In effect you'd take over zombie capital. We do need renewables but the key reclamation is the grid and not the power stations. And even there, there is a community shift to localised energy production that is outside the national grid. So 'nationalisation' kinda doesn't say it all.It obscures the reality. (2) '*Green illusions: The dirty secrets of clean energy and the future of environmentalism', *by Ozzie Zehner tackles the consumption issue with some good research. http://links.org.au/node/3750 (3) The challenge with green politics is engineering demands that will mobilize millions --that register in consciousness and suggest activity. And that's a hard ask. In part that's why the scam carbon tax or market registers because it seems concrete. (4) While we want a huge investment in renewables and public transport we want that from the state. We also need retrofitting of housing for sustainability....etc But unless we can sponsor the jobs growth in new climate/sustainability industries you won't win the 'reduce consumption' argument without the job security in place. (5) That said: I think there is another focus that socialist tend to neglect -- and this is being debated in GLW at the moment. We neglect agriculture. The Socalist Alliance has a very good ag policy platform: http://socialist-alliance.org/sites/default/files/policy/Agriculture.pdf But i reckon another demand we can bandy about is to raise the national soil organic matter (SOM) by a clear percentile. France has just adopted a 0.4% target per year https://theconversation.com/france-has-a-great-plan-for-its-soil-and-its-not-just-about-wine-47335 Indeed if there is any 'reform' campaign that can impact on pace of the climate change express train it lies with fiddling with agriculture rather than projecting immediate changes to consumption. After all you can still produce junk with solar energy. The food and agriculture focus also opens up a whole sway of alliances such as with outfits like La Via Campesina and draws folks attention toward the collective -- Ist and 3rd world -- nature of the climate challenge http://viacampesina.org/en/ dave riley _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: http://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
