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On 2017-10-27 18:00, Anthony Boynton via Marxism wrote:

Black Bloc tactics are consciously planned, rather than spontaneous, acts that have often lead to the arrest of protesters who did not participate in the planning and who have no knowledge of the planning, object or intent of
the black bloc.

All of this sort of talk (especially by Louis who has the loudest voice on this list) involves over-generalizations based on individuals' limited experiences and choice of what they want to label "Black Bloc" (or similarly "Antifa"). So statements like this aren't totally untrue but nor are they generally true.

What's more, there are enough examples of actions in which nothing like a black block is present, but where there are arrests of or police violence against demonstrators uninvolved in the planning (obviously) and who often did not have any "knowledge of the planning, object or intent" of the organizers, such as the organizers' intention to legally march to what they thought was a safe location while the police had a different idea.

But I have seen many times where those who planned illegal tactics (whether calling themselves black block or not) cooperated with other organizers to separate out their contingent in an action specifically so those not wishing to risk arrest can demonstrate in a separate location which remains relatively safe. But in some cases the stated nature of the action is such that ANYONE going to it would be aware of the risk so this isn't necessary.

Now I would indeed consider it very irresponsible for a demonstration to be billed as safe when the organizers know otherwise; I'm sure this has occurred but is the exception not the rule. And again, since groups who identify themselves as black block or antifa are numerous and generally disconnected from each other, you cannot extend the blame for some bad behaviour to all of those with a similar name or appearance. Any more than is it acceptable to blame all communists for the actions of Stalinism (does that not ring a bell??).

As I said, there can and should be fruitful debate within the left over tactics and organizing principles in which these issues will be raised. But making unfair generalizations about entire "groups" (that is, those who are perceived to be in a category that an outsider chooses to ignorantly define and characterize) will only stifle that debate and poison relations between forces with the same goals but who disagree over tactics, or who simply want to play different tactical roles having different levels of risk.

- Jeff




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