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Interesting as always with Richard. But again, as always, his imaginary is
drawn to the intractable, the  complex that cannot  be solved. At times it
seems to me that Ricard's thought is a series of long variations on the
theme of "pessimism of the intellect." The reference to biopolitics &
Foucault is not incidental.  There are echoes here of Nietzschean thought
of the Will to Power as the defining aspect of the human, and so there is
no ground for a resolution or hope for a Utopian rupture.

 I think he also underestimates the historical role of and need for Arab
labour.  It is true that since the 1990s the Israelis have substituted
"foreign" workers (to the level of about  77k) for Palestinians. But the
point is that Israel has always been dependent on Arab leader complicity in
the Zionist project and Arab help within Israel to make the Israeli state
viable.

I also know from my experience of growing up as a Catholic in Northern
Ireland, and Richard would agree with this, that a state which declares a
growing section of its own population as "the enemy" is permanently
unstable.

Richard does make the point that "Israel depends far too much on
international support". That is true, and it is why the BDS movement is
such a threat.

My own critique, and one I fear that Richard would not recognize, is that
Israel's true weakness is that it is not a moral undertaking. It is an
ensemble of what Bhaskar would have called power2 master-slave
relationships. Israel rests on a layer of dirty business - torture, arrest
without trial, spying, bribery, murder, and regular burst of slaughter.
Most states of course also depend on a layer of artisans who specialize in
dirty business. But in Israel the proponents of dirty business are in
charge out there in the open and increasingly they are a scandal to all our
humanity. Moreover, the social media meant that this morning I could see
the dirty work with a consciousness forming immediacy that the likes of
Murdoch and the Mainstream Media can no longer control.

In my youth the idealists at the university boasted were proud of their
work in the kibbutzim. No one does that now. No one.  The Israeli
ambassador to the UK, Regev recently advised the Labour Friends of Israel
that they should highlight the misogyny and homophobia of the opponents of
Israe. That was a desperate attempt to hold on to the notion that there is
something intrinsically good about Israel. The Zionist myth that the
redemption and sanctification of Israel would lead to the redemption and
sanctification of all humanity, has never seemed so sadly bizarre.

All around this troubled world where the Alt-right gather they fly the flag
of Israel.  We are now confronted with the realtity that scumbags, who are
deeply anti-semitic, support Israel.  They are all the way with Netanyahu,
as they march mouthing their filthy chant "Jews will not replace us". There
is no surer sign of the inevitable failure of the Zionist project.

My critique then rests on the proposition that there is a fundamental moral
impulse in the human and no one can violate that imperative for long
without suffering a breakdown. That also applies at the level of the
state.  And to make a final return to Richard's theme, it is here that one
finds the true similarity between South Africa and the Israeli state.

comradely

Gary




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