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As an aside, technology obviously isnt the same thing as technology. My wife and I have mobile phones. I frankly detest them. However, in our part of the city, Ma Bell effectively doesn't support having a land line. After wasting hours several weeks in a row with repeated incidents of lines just going dead, we had to give up and go for the alternate. This is a general problem on our street, and I suspect this isnt the only city letting the phone company do this in minority neighborhoods.. M _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com