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Was it not already Marxism 101 that Turkey and Russia would have more in common with each other as capitalist powers in the region than either would have with a revolutionary Syria? Therefore it would be obvious that at some point, in order to avoid a war with each other they would be willing to come up with a deal that would sell the Syrians short. I don't think anyone needed to be claiming great prophetic skills to see that outcome in the frame. Cheers, John On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:17 PM mkaradjis . via Marxism < marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> wrote: > ******************** POSTING RULES & NOTES ******************** > #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. > #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. > #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. > ***************************************************************** > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 6:56 PM RKOB via Marxism < > marxism@lists.csbs.utah.edu> > wrote: > I agree that "This sell-out deal was almost as predictable as night > becoming day". However, it is one thing to say so AFTER such an event has > happened or to warn about such a danger AHEAD of it.If comrades have > written such warning/predictions ahead of it, please forward the respective > link. > > Reply: > Well, since you're responding to me, when I wrote that Turkey's attacks > smashing up Assad's genocide-arsenal and downing warplanes deserves the > total support of humanity, I followed this with: > obviously I am not saying rebels should trust Turkey or subordinate > themselves or put much faith in Turkish actions; the reality is that Turkey > will do little, caught up as it is in deals with Assad's owners, Russia and > Iran. Turkey did nothing to prevent the cities of the revolution falling; > we all know why. However, Turkey also has 3.7 million Syrian refugees, the > highest number of refugees in the world by far, and it cannot handle > another million or two crossing the border; right now it is blocking them, > so the displaced are trapped between Assad and Putin's genocidal bombing > and Turkey's wall. To the extent that this forces Turkey to draw a line > somewhere, in the northern half of Idlib, to keep it, not as a centre of > revolution obviously, but as a giant refugee camp, we must say: GOOD. Not > anywhere good enough of course, but that is now done. No-one ever expected > the US or Turkey or Gulf countries to support a revolution and they didn't, > but if Turkey's own needs now correspond to protecting civilians from > slaughter, then that must be supported. > > Seems a pretty clear description of exactly what occurred. > _________________________________________________________ > Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm > Set your options at: > https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/johnedmundson4%40gmail.com > -- The law locks up the man or woman Who steals the goose from off the common But leaves the greater villain loose Who steals the common from the goose _________________________________________________________ Full posting guidelines at: http://www.marxmail.org/sub.htm Set your options at: https://lists.csbs.utah.edu/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com
