In a message dated 1/25/2011 7:44:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
waistli...@aol.com writes:

Class is  a big word and not simply a power relation. 

In say 1951, the Soviet  working class was an industrial working class but  
not an industrial  proletariat. Sure, everyone referred to the Soviet 
working 
class as the  "Soviet proletariat" because of its position as shock  
brigade, but  there was no class of capitalist in the Soviet Union in 1951  
to cast  
the workers as proletariat.  

There exists a class of  industrial workers. This class of industrial  
workers is different  from the class of manufacturing workers. The 
industrial  
working  class is the product of the industrial revolution. 

The proletariat is  the product of and expression of property relations:  
bourgeois  private property rather than feudal property. 

The property signature  of class OR the material form of class which 
encases 
the property  relations casting the proletariat as "proletariat" is 
subjective or   to be precise "subjective/objective." 

Private property flows from  subjective human attributes.  The property  
signature of class -  proletariat, does not arise out of the 
electro-mechanical  
quality of  productive forces defining the meaning of industrial. 

Revolution  

A REVOUTION is a complex contradictory process. 

It is composed  of interconnected stages of development, each possessing 
its 
own objective  or material and subjective or human/intellectual side. A 
brief   outline of these stages is 1). Qualitative transformation in the 
means  
of  production. The change in the means of production force, 2). A  
"revolution" in  society or social revolution. The "revolution" is  the 
actual process 
creating  new classes in society corresponding to  new means of production 
and its new  social organization of labor.  The social revolution is 
crowned 
by; 3) a  "political revolution" or  insurrection wherein representatives 
of 
one of the  contending  classes seize power and social reconstruction 
begins. 

What open a  revolutionary period is qualitative changes in the means of   
production, which at a certain stage produces social consequences  
compelling  
society to leap forward to a new organization of labor or  die. 
Non-revolutionary  periods are all the quantitative boundaries a  system 
goes through 
before  qualitatively new means of production  begin to disrupt the unity 
of the 
mode of  production. 

Books  can be written on each of the points above.  

Waistline.


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