Comrade Javad,
I accept your most interesting comments on the subject and will gladly
reply if you direct them to me off line as I requested. Unfortunately I am
trying to get my computer running again as it is down with a virus. I am
using a borrowed computer for email meanwhile. I look forward to resuming
discussions shortly,
fraternally Alan.
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> From: Javad Eskandarpour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [MLL] Engels' Dialectics of Nature!
> Date: Tuesday, 8 August 2000 07:58
>
> Comrade Dover,
>
> As I read your e-mail on Engels' Dialectics of Nature, I thought that you
> would like to investigate the concept of "the simplest" according to
> dialectical-materialism, but I think the first thing which is of
> philosophical import is the concept of "simple" according to
> dialectical-materialism. This concept has been the point of discussion
among
> the "philosophers" of bourgeoisie and also among the philosophers of the
> working-class.
> This concept of "simple" has many important practical applications for
the
> militant working-class movement. For example, Lenin was vehemently
against
> some "scientific" theoreticians with their "economy of thought".
Recently,
> many bourgeois "philosophers" and "scientists" would like to have a
> criterion of "simplicity" for adoption of a theory among the "competing"
> theories in any field of scientific investigation. And of course, their
> definition of "simple" and "simplicity" is subjective par excellence.
Now,
> the question is how is this concept of "simple" understood according to
> dialectical-materialism?
> By the way, let us say that somhow we come to a concrete understaing of
"the
> simplest", then how is this understaing specifically going to "be of
great
> advantage to all the sciences natural and applied and the basis of a
better
> understanding of the historical development of the universe"? I am
> interested in some details regarding this "better understaing", but not
some
> "general" statements.
>
> Javad
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Dover <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 4:10 PM
> Subject: RE: [MLL] Ecology and socialism
>
>
> > Bill comrade,
> >
> > it was nice to have Engel,s work 'Dialectics of Nature' mentioned on
the
> > list. As matter of fact I have always had an interest as you say "in
> science
> > and nature", this particular work of Engels caused me to study,
alongside
> > Marxist philosophy and scientific-socialism, Engel,s investigation into
> the
> > "basic forms of motion". It has been a particular line of study for me
for
> > some 35 years to continue the investigation he initiated in the work;
the
> > investigation takes up the challenge which lies in the fact that while
man
> > has discovered and defined inumerable processes of transformation of
> matter
> > from lower to higher or from the simpler to the more complex forms of
> matter
> > in motion, he has not yet defined the *simplest* form of motion.
> >
> > This was Engels objective in the work, unfortunately he was unable to
> > continue or apply himself fully to this particular task due to his
> priority
> > commitment to edit and publish Marx's extensive works on Capital. The
> > question still remains as a scientific challenge to Marxists and
> socialism.
> > The identification of this particular form of motion will reveal the
> > foundation for the origin of whole development of matter and motion
from
> the
> > simplest to the highest form (thinking). Such a discovery will be of
great
> > advantage to all the sciences natural and applied and the basis of a
> better
> > understanding of the historical development of the universe. This is a
> > prospect for socialism, for capitalism has tried and failed in the
attempt
> > to discover this particular form with their mechanical thinking. For
> example
> > Newton declared it to be "mere change of place", this apparently still
> > stands today. Interesting isn't it?
> >
> > If any Marxist on the list has a similar interest in the dialectics of
> > nature and this particular challenge then he or she is welcome to
contact
> me
> > off list in the interests of revolutionary socialist science.
> >
> > Thank you Bill for pointing out Engels thoughts on ecology and please
> excuse
> > my digression,
> >
> > fraternally Alan.
>
>
>
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