Right, when zorder is not explicitly specified, all the artists of the same
type get the same default zorder (I think 2, but I can't remember). We then
use a stable sort to determine the draw order, so two artists with the same
zorder are drawn in the order that they were created (the exception being
mplot3d, because it mucks about with zorders to achieve the 3d effect).

Ben Root

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Jody Klymak <jkly...@uvic.ca> wrote:

>
> For my backend (nbagg), the order of the data determines the order of
> drawing.  So in the following, the third diamond covers the first two in
> the first plot, but the first diamond covers them all in the second plot.
> Perhaps not as elegant as a matrix zorder, but can achieve the effect you
> are after.
>
> Cheers,   Jody
>
> fig, ax = plt.subplots(2,1)
> x = np.arange(3)
> y = 0.*x
> ax[0].plot(x,y,'d',markersize=52)
> ax[0].set_xlim(-10.,10.)
> ax[1].plot(x[[2,1,0]],y[[2,1,0]],'d',markersize=52)
> ax[1].set_xlim(-10.,10.)
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2015, at  9:44 AM, Benjamin Root <ben.r...@ou.edu> wrote:
>
> I see what you are getting at. The issue is that artists are first sorted
> by the zorder and then drawn one at a time. The draw for a collection
> artist is an at-once operation, it can't (currently) be split out and
> interspersed with the draws from another artist. This is one of the major
> limitations for mplot3d, as it would be nice to compose a 3d scene properly
> so that everything is logically consistent.
>
> I have actually been working on some changes that would allow one to sort
> the draws of individual elements of a collection, but I still haven't
> figured out a way to "break out" the elements with other collection
> elements in a way that doesn't break the current design or introduce major
> performance penalties. Maybe I'll figure something out during SciPy2015.
>
> Cheers!
> Ben Root
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Simon Walker <
> s.r.walker...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> When multiple datasets are plotted on the same axis, the points overlay
>> each other making it hard to see the points under the most recent ones. One
>> way to avoid this is to give each point a random zorder, randomising its
>> position in the z axis. This way, points from the first dataset may overly
>> points from the last dataset.
>>
>> This could be achieved nicely if the zorder keyword took an array so the
>> random zorder values per point can be pre-computed, but currently it only
>> accepts a single number for the whole dataset. Would this be a useful
>> feature for others to have? How difficult would it be to implement?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Simon Walker
>>
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