"When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs 
after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is
hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art."

Trivial costs?  Not according to our CIO.  I'm struggling to get something like 
this online, due to the sheer cost, which is most certainly not paid for by 
"the people's money".  And we need to remember that people aren't paying for 
"images of public domain art" (an abstract) but for image files + delivery + 
service.  

"As Mark Jones, director of the V&A remarked, paraphrased as told to me, "the
people paid for this once, why should they pay again?"

Perhaps the V&A is a fully-government-funded institution (with a very active 
commercial branch, V&A Enterprises, Ltd., to help support it -- including an 
excellent for-payment picture library).  But not so my non-government-funded 
institution.  We literally do not have a photography budget.  High-quality 
images are paid for by individual exhibition catalog budgets, which are fully 
funded by private donations.


Amalyah Keshet
Head of Image Resources & Copyright Management
The Israel Museum, Jerusalem
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From: Newman, Alan <a-new...@nga.gov>
Subject: Re: [MCN-L] Image Sizes (later Image Theft)
To: "Museum Computer Network Listserv" <mcn-l at mcn.edu>
Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 1:12 PM

Nik, Matt, Ken, Nancy, Mike et al,

Here's another music model --- from Radiohead (quoting from Wikipedia")

"Radiohead's seventh album, In Rainbows, was released through the band's own
website on 10 October 2007 as a digital download for which customers could
make whatever payment that they wanted, including nothing; the site only
advised, "it's up to you".[46] Following the band's sudden announcement 10
days beforehand, Radiohead's unusual strategy received much notice within
the music industry and beyond.[47] 1.2 million downloads were reportedly
sold by the day of release,[48] but the band's management did not release
official sales figures, claiming that the Internet-only distribution was
intended to boost later retail sales."

So we adopt a museum convention in use at the Met and elsewhere for
admissions: pay what you can afford for images. What could be more fair?
What could draw more attention to our collections? Who knows, this might be
the answer to Mariet Westermann's recommendation to streamline image
licensing.

When we build self-serve sites for image licensing which have trivial costs
after the build, and especially if we are using the people's money, it is
hard to justify charging for extant images of public domain art.

As Mark Jones, director of the V&A remarked, paraphrased as told to me, "the
people paid for this once, why should they pay again?"

Nik, wish me luck getting this through.

Alan Newman


On 5/5/09 6:23 PM, "Nik Honeysett" <NHoneysett at getty.edu> wrote:

> This reminds me of a classic example in the music industry in the early
90's.
> Blue Note Record's legal team came across a 12" single called "The
Band Played
> the Boogie" featuring an illegal sampling of Grant Green's
"Sookie Sookie",
> enjoying a huge underground following. Rather than
pursue a suit, Blue Note
> hired the group and gave them access to their
full back catalogue. The
> resulting release was Blue Note's first
platinum-selling album (Us3 - Hand on
> the Torch).

So, put your images out there, wait for someone to figure out
> how to
make money from them, then hire them.

(wish me luck with getting that
> through our general counsel).

-nik



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