Mersenne Digest       Thursday, August 28 2003       Volume 01 : Number 1086




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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 19:37:00 -0700
From: "John R Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mersenne: Howdy

> Just joined the list and wanted to say hey.  I am new to the project and
find it very interesting.  Does anyone know how long it has been running?

since at least 1995.


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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:41:25 -0700
From: "John R Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mersenne: Howdy

> > Just joined the list and wanted to say hey.  I am new to the project and
> > find it very interesting.  Does anyone know how long it has been
running?
>
> since at least 1995.

my bad, apparently the original prime95 came out in january 1996....  this
per the FAQ's and stuff on the mersenne.org site.


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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 21:25:30 -0700
From: "Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mersenne: Howdy

As someone who's been around since mid-1996, howdy back.

Yeah, I was also trying to remember how long it's been around... I guess I
really did catch it near the start.  I still have those fond memories of
emailing George with the exponents I'd randomly selected from the database.
Those were the days.

Speaking of old old versions...

Guess who *finally* got his computer equipment back from the EffBeeEye?
Yuppers... Nearly 5 years later and I'm now the proud re-owner of some
vintage 1998 equipment.  Well, the DLT 35/70 drive is still useful... Glad I
got that back.

Fired up my main machine (after re-hooking up just about EVERY cable inside
and removing the "Evidence" tape all over everything)... And there it was,
my Prime95 16.(4?) running.  Too bad the exponent has LOOONG since been
first/second time checked... In the 5M range.  Hey, it was a pretty new
first-time check at the time. :)

I was tempted to pull a Mitnick and try to auction off my loose hard drives,
each bagged and tagged "Evidence, FBI - Washington DC", but I'm just too
curious to see what exactly I had on those drives... Been so long, I've
forgotten.  Plus I'm not really thinking people would pay for crap like
that. :-D

Maybe I should at least take pictures to remember the moment...  Each hard
drive, even each floppy and tape they took, each CD etc. has a hand-written
serial # sticker affixed to it now.  They are organized, even if they didn't
know how to hook everything back up inside the computer (fans hanging loose,
SCSI drives plugged into the wrong ports, etc). 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> John R Pierce
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:41 PM
> To: Mersenne discussion list
> Subject: Re: Mersenne: Howdy
> 
> > > Just joined the list and wanted to say hey.  I am new to 
> the project 
> > > and find it very interesting.  Does anyone know how long 
> it has been
> running?
> >
> > since at least 1995.
> 
> my bad, apparently the original prime95 came out in january 
> 1996....  this per the FAQ's and stuff on the mersenne.org site.

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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 00:53:42 -0400
From: Rick Pali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mersenne: Howdy

>Yeah, I was also trying to remember how long it's been around... I guess I 
>really did catch it near the start.  I still have those fond memories of 
>emailing George with the exponents I'd randomly selected from the 
>database. Those were the days.

Too true...I got in about a year after it started if memory serves. I 
remember when PrimeNet came on line...I got as high as #15 before I started 
my descent into the triple digits. :-)

Rick.
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Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 06:45:16 +0100
From: Daran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mersenne: Howdy

On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:25:30PM -0700, Aaron wrote:

> Guess who *finally* got his computer equipment back from the EffBeeEye?
> Yuppers... Nearly 5 years later and I'm now the proud re-owner of some
> vintage 1998 equipment.  Well, the DLT 35/70 drive is still useful... Glad
> I got that back.

The Feds seized your computer?  Gosh, I had no idea they took exponent
poaching so seriously.  ;-)


Humour aside, I'm intrigued.  Why was your kit taken?

Regards

Daran G.
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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 22:51:22 -0700
From: "John R Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mersenne: Howdy

> Humour aside, I'm intrigued.  Why was your kit taken?

it was a long story.

short version is, he was a consultant, working at some biga$$ insurance
company as a PC Tech.  he pre-loaded Prime95 on the desktop install so it
was running on a few 100 machines at said company.   he thought he had
verbal permissions from the desktop systems manager, but someone in
corporate security got freaked by the nonstandard network traffic they
invoked, and sic'd the FBI on him for 'hacking', and they hit him with a
search warrant, and took *all* his business computers, tapes, CDs, backups,
etc.  left him unable to complete ongoing consulting contracts, or even file
his taxes as his books were on the computers too.


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Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 23:34:52 -0700
From: "Aaron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Mersenne: Howdy

> it was a long story.
> 
> short version is, he was a consultant, working at some biga$$ 
> insurance company as a PC Tech.  he pre-loaded Prime95 on the 
> desktop install so it
> was running on a few 100 machines at said company.   he thought he had
> verbal permissions from the desktop systems manager, but 
> someone in corporate security got freaked by the nonstandard 
> network traffic they invoked, and sic'd the FBI on him for 
> 'hacking', and they hit him with a search warrant, and took 
> *all* his business computers, tapes, CDs, backups, etc.  left 
> him unable to complete ongoing consulting contracts, or even 
> file his taxes as his books were on the computers too.

US WEST... Yeah, phone companies don't appreciate when their contractors
"see all those computers and just can't resist" (paraphrase of one of my
more infamous quotes).

It was actually somewhere in the several thousands of machines...

The whole reason they got so upset, I think, is that a couple days *before*
I'd started running all those, they had some other network problems that was
causing their main app to run slow, and when they investigated, they found
Prime95 running, so of course they jumped a conclusion or two and blamed
Prime95 for the slowdown.

Later on of course we (meaning me and some log files) ascertained that the
problem began before Prime95 was ever there, and maybe that's something that
helped them decide to drop the whole thing eventually.  That and the fact
that I didn't actually "hack" anything.  They were all machines I'd built
the master image for, and they just never changed any of the passwords in
the 2 years since those were deployed.  In a strange way, those were my
babies... We'd unload 100 machines a night during the deployment... Unbox
'em, put them on desks replacing old dumb terminals...

During the deployment of those, we'd sometimes need to send out "hotfixes"
to machines we'd already done, so I wrote some scripts to update them all in
the field.  Basically I just did one final "hotfix" to install that
oh-so-critical program, prime95. :-P

Bad judgment, yeah.  Criminal?  I never thought so.  So, word of the wise to
anyone installing this without permission: Don't!

It did suck not having all my documents and what not... I tried a couple
times to get backups of all my important docs but even though there are
federal guidelines that allow for that, I had no luck.

Probably the part that stunk the most was paying TCI $400 to replace my
rented cable-modem.  Well, I did get a signed document from TCI that when I
returned the cable modem I'd get my money back... Think I could still cash
that in? :)  Sure it's gone from TCI to AT&T to Comcast, but hey, maybe...
Shows how much the price of cable modems has dropped. :)

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Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 06:33:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Brett J. Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mersenne: Primenet Error 2252

Greetings:

I have recently installed prime95 and I am getting:

Primenet Error 2252

I have reviewed the FAQs without finding a relevant
error code.  I found a single previous post that cited
the error but there was no fix noted.

It appears to be a network issue, however I have the
firewall set to allow all traffic out from the
relevant source ip address and on a packet capture the
traffic looks normal but no responses are received.

Any feedback is appreciated.

- -Brett

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