Hello Adam, Your statements confuse me. At what point is a "slice" no longer a "slice," but a "slab," and at which point does later subdivision of a slice/slab render it not worthwhile to record the original slice/slab's weight for purposes of deeming it a record-breaking cut?
It seems like you're using a very specific definition of "complete slice" to deem this a record-breaking event. Though, not knowing the weight of the largest slice/slab of 61016 (or other lunar samples), I find such proclamations...odd. As to "who cares?" -- apparently you do, since you're making the claims. I'm all for publicity, but if one's going to make claims regarding quantitative numbers, one should be able to back them up -- and probably have the weights of the largest previously cut Apollo sample slices/slabs on hand to support it. Eyeing a photo and saying "it looks like it weighs less" doesn't quite cut it. I can speak for Marlin's fine work, and have no doubt he did a fine job on the slices. But that's beside the point. Regards, Jason www.fallsandfinds.com On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Jason, > > > I looked at the link and what you are calling a complete slice is a slab. If > we are going for the world record slab cut, then Marlin still has it. > > The largest slab cut from NWA 5000 was as follows: > > 3,538 grams > 238mm X 219mm X 52mm > > Of course, this slab was subdivided into five of the worlds largest Lunar > complete slices which was the intent from the beginning. Just like NASA > always intended to subdivide the 61016 slab for testing. I would estimate > the 61016 slab to be less than half the size and weight of the NWA 5000 slab > that Marlin produced. > > Who cares? Marlin did a wonderful preparation job and is to be commended on > a new world record! > > > Adam > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jason Utas <meteorite...@gmail.com> > To: Greg Hupé <gmh...@centurylink.net> > Cc: Galactic Stone & Ironworks <meteoritem...@gmail.com>; Adam Hupe > <raremeteori...@yahoo.com>; Meteorite-list > <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 3:49 PM > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin Cilz! > > Hello All, > I hate to rain on the parade, but I'd do some research before making > 'record-breaking' claims. > > http://curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/lsc/61016.pdf > > I don't know how much the largest slabs of Apollo material weigh(ed), > but they were/are sizable. And I don't even know if the huge slabs in > the above document were/are the largest they cut. > > This isn't my project, so I don't feel particularly inclined to ask > NASA how large their largest slices of lunar material weigh(ed). > > Either way the old record probably goes to NASA. Marlin could hold a > new record having cut a 1.1 kg slice, but that's questionable given > the photos in the above article, if nothing else. > > Regards, > Jason > > > www.fallsandfinds.com > > > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Greg Hupé <gmh...@centurylink.net> wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> I am glad you asked for images of the Northwest Africa 5000 complete slices, >> here are a few to get you started and I can share more as time allows... >> http://www.naturesvault.net/meteorites/nwa5000.html >> >> The sequence of slices liberated from the original 11.528 kilo mass start >> with CS1 (the 'Ambassador' slice), then CS2, CS3, and so forth to CS6. The >> slice on today's Meteorite Picture of the Day is CS3. Side 'b' of each slice >> goes deeper into the mass and the surface area of the slices become even >> larger than the previous slice. >> >> The 483.89 gram 'Mona Lisa of Moon Rocks' slice will start its world tour at >> the 2013 Ensisheim Show this Friday and continue on to the Sainte Marie aux >> Mines show if it is still available. I will also be bringing a selection of >> smaller slices that are gorgeous! >> >> If you are going to the Ensisheim Show, or are still contemplating it, this >> complete slice of NWA 5000 looks incredibly better in person as attempts to >> capture its beauty by mere photos are very difficult. >> >> I hope to see you all there! >> >> Best Regards, >> Greg >> >> ==================== >> Greg Hupé >> The Hupé Collection >> gmh...@centurylink.net >> www.NaturesVault.net (Online Catalog & Reference Site) >> www.LunarRock.com (Online Planetary Meteorite Site) >> NaturesVault (Facebook, Pinterest & eBay) >> http://www.facebook.com/NaturesVault >> http://pinterest.com/NaturesVault >> IMCA 3163 >> ==================== >> Click here for my current eBay auctions: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZnaturesvault >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Galactic Stone & Ironworks >> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 5:06 PM >> To: Adam Hupe >> Cc: Adam >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] World Record Slice Produced By Marlin Cilz! >> >> >> Hi Adam, >> >> I think I speak for many on the List when I say this : >> >> PHOTOS! And LOTS of them. Every angle. High-res. Close-ups of >> interesting clasts. Inquiring minds wanna see eye candy. :) >> >> Best regards, >> >> MikeG >> >> -- >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> Web - http://www.galactic-stone.com >> Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone >> Twitter - http://twitter.com/GalacticStone >> Pinterest - http://pinterest.com/galacticstone >> Blog - http://www.galactic-stone.com/blog >> ------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> On 6/17/13, Adam Hupe <raremeteori...@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> A big congratulations should go out to Marlin Cilz who prepared five new >>> NWA >>> 5000 complete slices. He broke a world record which I previously held for >>> 5-1/2 years for preparing the single complete slice known as the >>> "Ambassador." I never disclosed the record while I held it but it is for >>> producing the world's largest Moon rock slice. It is doubtful that >>> anybody >>> will break Marlin's new record anytime soon, >>> >>> The record.is: >>> >>> NWA 5000 Complete Slice: >>> 1,116.78 grams - 238mm X 218mm X 14mm >>> >>> My brother, Greg and I would have never had Marlin produce a slice this >>> big >>> hadn't it been for a custom order. >>> >>> Marlin did a world class job of preparing these slices and I wanted to >>> thank >>> him publicly. >>> >>> >>> Adam Hupe >>> The Hupe Planetary Collection >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: "valpar...@aol.com" <valpar...@aol.com> >>> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 12:00 AM >>> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Picture of the Day >>> >>> >>> Today's Meteorite Picture of the Day: NWA 5000 >>> >>> Contributed by: Greg and Adam Hupe >>> >>> http://www.tucsonmeteorites.com/mpod.asp >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> ______________________________________________ >>> >>> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >>> Meteorite-list mailing list >>> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >>> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >>> >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com >> Meteorite-list mailing list >> Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com >> http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > > Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteorite-list-archives.com Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
