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From: Dennis miller <themille...@live.com<mailto:themille...@live.com>>
Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 9:15 PM
To: 
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Subject: Fw: Questions about the SF National Forest



Hi, Folks!  This land use gets so discombobulated that no one knows what is or 
isn't

permissible in National forests.  As for the collectors, little guys that don't 
do this for

a living, simple apply what is on the books.  This is a copy of a letter that I 
received from

State Office in Santa Fe.  It was pretty clear what I could do and couldn't.  I 
carried a

copy of this in my pocket.  I also carry a copy of Title 43 Part 8360 Subpart 
8365, "Rules

of Conduct" for Federal land, to show the unknowing ranger what I can and can't 
do.

The generally walk away saying "Have a Great day".   If I'm missing something,  
I would

like better information than I have.  Oh, the letter went to the USGA state 
supervisor.

Thanks!  Dennis

P.S. Sally Jewell, the new Secretary of Interior, from Denver, is a

outdoorsy, rock collecting, geologist.  I'm hoping she will keep our

lands open for our "Hobby".  Her e-mail is: 
secretary-jew...@ios.doi.gov<mailto:secretary-jew...@ios.doi.gov>


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From: "Szopinski, Joshua - FS" 
<jszopin...@fs.fed.us<mailto:jszopin...@fs.fed.us>>
Date: April 21, 2016 at 8:16:22 AM MDT
To: Dennis miller <themille...@live.com<mailto:themille...@live.com>>
Subject: RE: Questions about the SF National Forest

Hello,

Currently, there are no entrance restrictions on the Santa Fe National Forest. 
There are some roads that are closed but I don't recall any near Glorieta.
>From the Santa Fe National Forest website: Metal Detecting is allowed 
>throughout the forest except in significant archaeological or historical 
>sites.  It is the responsibility of the person using the metal detector to not 
>remove any item protected by law.  Please read question and answers 
><http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5363641.doc> before 
>embarking on a detecting mission.
No permit or notification is required for collecting if the following applies:
*         Collecting of samples is on the surface (no digging with hand tools 
or mechanized equipment).  A small sluice may be used.
*         Collection is for personal use and esthetic values (cannot be sold or 
bartered).
For the following activities, please contact the Santa Fe National Forest to 
discuss permitting or authorization:
*         Activity that does involve digging with hand tools or mechanized 
earth-moving equipment, including bobcats, suction dredges, 'high banking' or 
dry washing equipment.
*         Commercial activities including collecting mineral or fossil 
specimens for re-sale.
*         Removal of more than insignificant amounts of landscape rock.
The following items may not be collected or removed by casual collectors:
*         Vertebrate fossils (dinosaurs bones, fish, - anything with a 
backbone), and shark teeth.
*         Archeological resources 
<http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5363656.doc> including 
any material remains of prehistoric or historic human life or activities, which 
are at least 50 years old, and includes the physical site, location, or context 
in which they are found including items such as old coins, metal implements, or 
utensils. (36 CFR 261.2)
The collection of projectile points, pottery, or any other archeological 
resource or artifact is not allowed (36 CFR 261.9 (h) without a permit. 
Projectile points include 'arrowheads' and any prehistoric human-modified stone.


Some forest roads do travel through private land and the owner of the land can 
lock the gate on the road at anytime. Going onto private property will need 
authorization from the land owner before you enter their land.

Hope that helped.


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Joshua Szopinski
Customer Service Representative

Forest Service
Santa Fe National Forest, Supervisor's Office

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