Yes, counterfeits and fakes are hardly anything new. Some counterfeit
Chinese made medications sold in the U.S. market through national chain
stores put my mother-in-law in the hospital for several weeks and could
have resulted in her death. How about counterfeit batteries that blow
up in your face while talking on a cell phone? How about sawdust in
your baby formula or rat turds ground into your dog's food?
I remember having to write checks to acquire meteorites from a handful
of dealers a few decades ago. I had no concerns whatsoever about about
them being fake until around 1998 when a dealer was substituting a DAG
Howardite for Kapoeta. This was my first encounter with fraud in
meteorites and now it is so common place that some just take it for
granted. It is a pretty sad situation.
Just because it is common place doesn't excuse anybody from engaging in
the unsavory practice.
Adam
On 11/26/2017 5:18 PM, Michael Farmer wrote:
Fake things being sold for money. Wow color me shocked. Hardly anything new.
What’s next? Knock-off Rolex and Prada shoes?
Come on Adam. Yes it’s terrible but hardly news. Let them get scammed. Perhaps
they should buy from real dealers.
Michael Farmer
On Nov 27, 2017, at 8:28 AM, Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list
<meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com> wrote:
This same seller fleeced $400.00 out of some poor collector last week:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lunar-Meteorite-from-KREEP-Basalt-to-Lunar-Granite-0-4g-Moon-Breccia-Granite/222713435793?hash=item33dac15691:g:-EMAAOSwv~RZ04Hn
It is a bad sign when undocumented stones are starting to outnumber official
material.
I have seen the same thing happen in other collectable markets.
What next, witnessed falls again?
Adam
On 11/26/2017 4:17 PM, drtanuki wrote:
Adam and List,
There is also a seller from Taiwan selling fake Lunar KREEP. Buyer beware!Help this
guy by "liking" his post! Thanks!
jacwon_7
https://www.ebay.com/sch/jacwon_7/m.html?item=222713434677&hash=item33dac15235%3Ag%3AReUAAOSw2oJZ04cE&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562
Best Regards,
Dirk Ross...Tokyo
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From: Adam Hupe via Meteorite-list <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
To: metlist <meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 9:04 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Terrestrial Breccia Being Offered Up As Lunar
Some more terrestrial breccia lacking any kind of fusion crust or
flight-markings being added to the huge pile being sold as lunar:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lunar-Meteorite-Breccia-37g/263346210852?hash=item3d50a84824:g:zzwAAOSwEEBaGyPN
This demonstrates the need to have every piece tested and made official.
To me it is obvious this is not a lunar specimen but it is close enough
to fool many. Remember, a COA is worthless without official scientific
data to back it up. A recent national auction demonstrated that there
is simply no secondary market for undocumented, untested and unofficial
material.
Material like this only undermines collector confidence which is at an
all time low right now because of the amount of undocumented crap being
dumped onto the market. Fake Martian material is making a comeback as well.
Adam
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