Yap, I did.
pekka s
McomeMeteorite Meteorite wrote:
mistake, I not have write to Schoner, others have write to him...
From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Take look at what the BCC Lunar. Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:05:17 -0600
Greetings List;
Matteo wrote an eamil to Steve Shoner asking him what is this? And Steve Shoner asnswered in part.
What is this ????
As far as I remember I made no agreement with Ray DeRusse other than to trade a sample of Takysie Lake for some of his so called "stellar grains." I have made no conclusion on these samples, nor at this time do I intend to do any work with these as to ascertain what they are.
This is not exactly correct. (I will find his emails ).I did make two trades with Steve, however I never asked him to test or determine what the stellar grains were in the slide, never. That has been determined and I sent them to him as a novelty and a trade. He sent me two samples of Takysie Lake and we determined that indeed one sample was consistent with the information in the MAPS article and the other was chemcially an augite rich lunar microbreccia. He sent me a long long email basically in distress saying he and Ninninger were convinced it was lunar but that the "scientists" in Arizona would not look at it again. Somewhere I have copies of these emails. But let it be known that we never asked him to identify anything for us. Why would ask him to do something for us that we can do ourselves? That makes no sense. Now having said this about this trade with Shoner, if any of you think that Mr. Shoner did not grab that slide and run to the lab to look through a microscope and examine the stellar grains, you are out in lala land. If you think scientists in Arizona have not looked at our material, you are out in lala land. No reasonable person and certainly no prosecutor is going to believe that our sample to Steve Shoner has been sitting idle somewhere.
As far as Badolotti recieving a lunar sample for free he's not the only one that has a sample. Matteo keeps harassing Badalotti and us and everybody. If Matteo wants a sample he can ask Francesco Badolotti and if Badalotti wanst to give him some that is OK with us. We sent a sample to Badalotti because of his devotion to the lunar science and the Moon, he deserves it.
Now to Dr. Tanuki or whatever you call yourself. You write;
What is this person`s point? If he has scientific data? on his "lunar"and "other" material, why does`t he present it and be quiet instead of attacking scientists and their real research? To attack Dr.
Rubin, the fine scientists in Texas, Mike Farmer, Matteo and Steve Schoner is counter-productive and completely uncalled for.
I don't know where you have been, but we have never launched an attack against anyone first. Some of the idiots on the list and there are many, have launched unwarranted attacks on us first. We responded with an equal measure of force. You're very right it is counter productive to attack scientists, if it is warranted.
If I have made claims against any scientist it is sustainable by a direct or indirect body of evidence and it is not a big secret that if you engaged in scientific misconduct fraud and abuse against us we're coming after you until we receive satisfaction. Because we are not going to allow abuses against us under some sort of cloak of authority, by a "scientist". If I were them, I would come clean long long ago because now the Federal Government has a bigger clean up job to do and believe me they working on it and we are woking with them.
Finally to Matteo, an honorable mention, you need to get real about asking NASA, JPL, JSC or Alan Rubin, any scientist, or whoever to shut us down. Aside from server problems we are having, we're not going anywhere. The reason for this is that its too late for them. Based on the stack of documents I just sent out by a federal request. We are under the cloak of authority and protection by certain governmental agencies. The people you keep asking to help you would be better off finding a small dark, quiet corner, to pray.
Sincerely,
S. Ray DeRusse,
www.bccmeteorites.com
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