Greg wrote:

"Remember when Amgala was first named, and then another name also refers to it (Oum Dreyga). Well, this happened because the material was found in both of those areas and that is why you will find Amgala/Oum Dreyga and both names are accepted for that one."

Hi Greg, List,

Oum Dreyga is an interesting sounding name. Does anyone know what it means? As an amateur astronomer I would guess, "The Mother of the Dragon."

I am confused by Greg's comment which strongly supports the continuing usage of the "accepted" name Amgala. Does the Meteoritical Society agree in having two official names for any named fall or find for that matter? (They don't according to the MetSoc/USGS online database) Or do you mean accepted in the sense of, e.g., calling "Brenham" the "Haviland" meteorite just because some fell in Haviland too?

This is not a Gao-Guenie situation as both of those names were published due to poor field documentation and later officially merged to straighten out the perplexing research situation. In that case, they may be called Gao the way I rationalize this, as a shorthand for the full name for those that have some sentimental attachment to them: like Greg for Gregory or Doug for Douglas.

I just looked at an attractive, representative fully crusted specimen of "Amgala" at http://chicagometeorites.net/id48.html , and chided the enthusiastic owner about the name (he courteously obliged by adding Oum Dreyga in parens).

I now remembered this post you made recently to Aziz. Honestly, I'm now confused after rereading it when I thought I was ok before. I have two beautiful "Amgala" stones I got from The Hupé Collection. Googling Amgala I find many sites where collectors and hunters are going to lenghts to explain that this is the same meteorite, and often "Amgala" is bolder with Oum Dreyga in parenthesis or below in the text. Is that meteoritically cool?

I vaugely remember the Hupé Collection Team was among the first to research this meteorite and mentioned "Amgala" was only a provisional "working name" that was subject to change and therefore should not be used until it was properly documented. If I am remembering correctly great, anyways, I totally agree with that regarding the change. Certainly some casual collectors will have both Oum Dreyga and Amgala specimens and think they have two different falls. Is there any special reason all serious collectors shouldn't strive to lose these unofficial synonyms, as our useful contributions to meteoritics, which includes taxonomy, or at least mention that they are unofficial synonyms, outdated, products of premature marketing (by everyone in the rythm of today's world), or just unofficial marketing names for Oum Dreyga?

If Carancas turns out to be Huanocollo, or Desaguadero; Mali becomes Algeria, etc., I think we all have a proud responsability to support proper nomenclature for authentic specimens. I would appreciate your thoughtful opinion on the best way to keep the nomenclature under control in the collectors' arena - and to help clean up what I personally perceive as a bad precedent in progress.

Thanks kindly and best wishes,
Doug
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