"Winonaites are composed largely of fine-grained pyroxenes, minor
magnesium-rich olivine, the iron-sulfide troilite, and nickel-iron metal.
The total iron content ranges between 18% and 30% among members of this
group, possibly a factor of the close relationship that exists between the
winonaites and silicate inclusions in IAB iron meteorites. These silicate
inclusions are very similar to the winonaites in chemistry and mineralogy,
and they exhibit the same unique oxygen isotopic composition. Recent
research suggests that both the winonaites and IAB irons originated on the
same parent body - a partially differentiated asteroid that was disrupted
just as it began to form an iron core and a silicate-rich crust. This
disrupting impact mixed silicates into molten nickel-iron forming the
silicated IAB irons, and mixed olivine-rich residues of partial melts into
unmelted silicates, forming the winonaites."


http://www.meteorite.fr/en/classification/PAC-group.htm

In any case it will be necessary to wait until an exact analysis and classification will reveal whether both aspects - winonaite / silicated iron (IAB) - can be identified with one and the same meteorite.

Best, Matthias


----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Bärmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Hello Andrei,

I'm not sure but as far as I remember exactly this question was - and
perhaps still is - in discussion in regard to Winona and Canyon Diablo.

My best,

Matthias


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Hi list

I wonder where is the line between a high metal winonaite
and a silicated iron as in some irons, the silicate inclusions
are winonaitic.
Maybe analyses made on a piece where silicates are dominant
can give a winonaite classification and on other pieces of the
same fall with dominant iron can give an iron classification ?
I'm asking because I have some pieces of NWA 4024 with
silicates and some without, only irons, and recently I cut some
small iron meteorites from Morocco and found them very similar
with the irons from NWA 4024.
Shall I call them irons ? or metal inclusions from a W chondrite ?

Best Regards,
Andrei





----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Marmet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of the Day / NWA
4024



Hello All,

http://www.rocksfromspace.org/February_24_2008.html
We have several pieces of very likely the same meteorite.
First we thought it might be paired with NWA 2680.
Further analyses at the Nat. Hist. Museum in Bern showed that this is
not the case:

Ni 8.58 und 7.82 % (NWA 2680: 13.7%)
Co 0.47 und 0.46 % (NWA 2680: 0.54%)
Cu <10 ppm   (NWA 2680: 548 ppm)

Ni and Cu contents show that our material is very likely not paired
with NWA 2680.

Then we saw high res. picts of NWA 4024 and noticed that our material
looks visually identical to NWA 4024.
We sold several pieces on ebay as "new iron" last year.
Unfortunately the museum in Bern could not classify our material, so  we
sent 25 grams to Dr. Greshake
in Berlin. To be sure that it is the same material as NWA 4024, he
suggested to make an O-Isotope analysis which he can't do
himself but scientifists in England he is working with. But it seems
that our material is right at the bottom of the
priority list of these English scientists - so we have to be patient.
As soon we have the results from England, we will inform you and put
some of our material on ebay again.

For those who already have bought from our material and are waiting  for
the final results....thank you for being so patient!

Peter


Peter Marmet
Bern, Switzerland
IMCA #2747
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/
ebay: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZpema9


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