Hi Mark, Geo, and List,

I agree with Mark here.  I apologize also for shooting off my mouth.
Thankfully we all agree on meteorites and that is what unites us - so
let's concentrate on that.  :)

I think that big injection of negative energy from the NYT article has
stirred up the waters and a portion of this discussion was indirectly
fueled by that.

And to my remaining friends in Louisiana - I didn't mean to offend and
I apologize also.  I only meant to point out that Louisiana is worth
saving and has not gotten a fair shake.

Best regards,

MikeG


On 4/8/11, Mark Bowling <mina...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> My apologies to the list - this was meant to be between me and GeoZay.
> MikeG I
> didn't intend to do this on purpose.  My apologies.
>
> Please let's stop - the old saying about mixing politics and religion is for
> this very reason.  None of us will ever see eye to eye on these complex
> topics.
>
> I'm a mining engineer and I see a lot said that just does not fit what I
> have
> learned or experienced.  I don't want to drink oil or pour it on the beach.
> I
> don't want to give up my car either.  I don't want my privilege of being
> born in
> the USA and my lifestyle choices being exported onto the backs on the
> powerless
> masses in the third world, whose homes and ecosystems are being destroyed,
> and
> their safety and health being destroyed because, as I see it, we, who
> consume
> most of everything made, do not want to see a relatively pristine oil rig or
> open pit mine anywhere near anywhere we go.
>
> I respect those who choose to forgo cars and electricity because they don't
> want
> to burden the earth.  I do not respect those who want to force others to
> change
> their lifestyles, while they do not.  I see a lot of complaining about
> problems,
> but I don't see much leadership offered.  I see a lot of proposals for
> alternative energy, but I don't see them putting their money into those
> investments.  I see America exporting and outsourcing more and more while
> the
> debt load continues to grow.  Our politicians have been lying to us by
> downplaying our debt.
>
> Mark Bowling
> Vail, Arizona
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Mark Bowling <mina...@yahoo.com>
> To: geo...@aol.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 2:37:44 PM
> Subject: Re:OT -Oil reserves, the reality
>
> I can't reply on list because I'd be a hypocrite - I guess MikeG doesn't
> have a
> car.
>
> And per his earlier post, if he wasn't to sit on a fortune instead of using
> it
> to keep his portfolio (or in this case - keep America the world leader),
> then so
>
> be it.  He doesn't understand the time value of money or economics.  He can
> bury
>
> his talents, but you and I can use them to double or quadruple them...
>
>
> Have a great weekend! :)
> Mark
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "geo...@aol.com" <geo...@aol.com>
> To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> Sent: Fri, April 8, 2011 1:44:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT -Oil reserves, the reality
>
>
>>>Every time I hear somebody say  "drill, baby, drill!", I want to drill
> them in their face with my fist.  I could but I don't - because I am
> not a child and I can control my urges -  unlike many fools who burn
> gas like it grows on trees.<<
>
>
> I  guess that's your opinion...but mine has been Drill, Baby, Drill for
> quite some while.
> GeoZay
>
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