On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 02:47:29AM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Hi Aner,
>
> Aner Perez wrote on Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:32:44PM -0400:
> > On 05/17/2018 05:22 PM, x...@dr.com wrote:
> >> "Ingo Schwarze" <schwa...@usta.de> wrote:
>
> >>> Absolutely not.
> >>> Mandoc output is not optimized for any device.
> >>>
> >>> Which elements or rules in the current HTML or CSS code
> >>> make you think it is optimized or it discriminates against
> >>> any device?
>
> >> I don't know which element or rule is the problem, however
> >> if I delete mandoc.css the text does fill the screen.
> >>
> >> I understand that what I am trying to do is not supported,
> >> so I'll do something else instead.
>
> > First non-comment line of mandoc.css says:
> >
> > html { max-width: 100ex; }
> >
> > Removing this line allows the use of the full browser width.
>
> That is a very useful bit of information.
> Thanks for investigating and reporting it.
>
> For testing purposes, i removed that line from
> https://man.openbsd.org/mandoc.css
>
> xcv@, could you check with your phone whether this solves
> your original issue?
>
> > I'm sure that it was put there for a reason
> > (maybe to approximate the width of a terminal?).
>
> Correct. The original reason was that for -T ascii and -T utf8
> output, the default is -O width=78. The reason for that is that
> it's conventional wisom in typography that readability of text
> suffers with excessive column width - even though some recent
> research raises doubts whether that is really true. Either way,
> people tend to feel strongly about it.
>
> I must say i never particularly liked that line in the CSS file.
> It always felt like fiddling with details that it might be better
> not to touch, given that display devices running browsers differ
> more than terminal emulators. And here we are with a suspicion
> that it actually causes accessibility issues, even if the suspicion
> is still unconfirmed...
>
> Depending on the feedback i get here with respect to how
> https://man.openbsd.org/
> now looks, i shall consider deleting the offending line for good.
>
> In general, i like the idea of making things better by *removing*
> harmful tweaks rather than adding new goo...
>
> Yours,
> Ingo
I needed to shift-refresh in chromium to see the changes reflected.
IMHO this looks far worse on desktop, stretching out the text to very
long lines.
Would rather not see this change become permanent.
-Bryan.
