Actually you don't need to present a voter registration to vote and I agree with much of what you said below, however I have watched people vote with a City Utility bill, a phone bill and various other forms of identification that does nothing but list a name.
We need an ID to drive, to sign out a book in the library, and should an officer of the law request it, but somehow voting should be exempt from all of it..? makes sense to me after all these people are only going to control your life from here on out... I seem to recall a case where the entire team of the 1998 Dallas Cowboys were registered to vote in CO and put on the voting roles. On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:30 PM, James Hornaday Jr. <rail...@sbcglobal.net>wrote: > People: > > I think the state Republicans (if actually contemplating requiring the > presentation of an official photo ID at the time of voting) are trying to > unnecessarily control a situation that is NOT out of control. > > I remember going to the county clerk to register for voting when I moved to > Springfield. I showed my new Missouri drivers license to the clerk, and was > promptly issued a voter registration card. Assuming county clerks in > Missouri are honest and doing their jobs properly, why shouldn't a simple > voter registration card sufficient for access to ballot at election time. > The critical information on each card has to match what the poll people have > in front of them as official records. Hey, I've worked as a election > official. The opportunity for someone voting fraudulently in Greene County > is zero. > > Where is the fraud being committed by not having an official picture ID, > when a voter with a valid registration card asks a ballot to vote? > > This proposed legislation smells the same as all the control aspects of our > federal Patriot Act. > > Jim Hornaday > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jerry Blevins <jb...@mchsi.com> > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Sat, February 12, 2011 1:55:45 PM > *Subject:* RE: [MoLiCo] Fw: Stop Republican voter suppression in Missouri > > Most of them do not have a picture ID, are you telling me that if you are > required to be at or in a certain place and you had to furnish ID to get in, > that will take care of the requirement at the time you vote, ------I Don’t > think so------, like I said, people need to think these things through > before jumping on the band wagon, unless of course they have another agenda. > > > > Jerry > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Martz > *Sent:* Saturday, February 12, 2011 1:14 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [MoLiCo] Fw: Stop Republican voter suppression in Missouri > > > > No it wouldn't since these people required ID when they were admitted > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Jerry Blevins <jb...@mchsi.com> wrote: > > Well most people do not think these things through, I think it does > disenfranchise a lot of legal voters, an example, and this is only one, I > can name others, this would take away most if not all of the people who are > in nursing homes and places like that, both elder and young. > > > > Jerry > > > > *From:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com [mailto: > missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tom Martz > *Sent:* Saturday, February 12, 2011 12:48 PM > *To:* missourilibertycoalition@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [MoLiCo] Fw: Stop Republican voter suppression in Missouri > > > > Republicans in the state legislature are trying to pass a law requiring > that voters show a form of ID with a picture on it before someone can vote. > This does NOTHING to disenfranchise any legal voter since most of them have > either a driver license or can be issued a state ID card with a picture. > > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Linda Herd <linda.h...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote: > > Can you believe this? > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ---- > *From:* "Ali Rozell, CREDO Action" <a...@credoaction.com> > *To:* Linda Marie Herd <linda.h...@sbcglobal.net> > *Sent:* Sat, February 12, 2011 12:52:02 PM > *Subject:* Stop Republican voter suppression in Missouri > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > > *Take a stand against suppression of Missouri > voters<http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=7117&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=1> > * > > *Tell Gov. Nixon to oppose voter suppression in Missouri > <http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=7118&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=2>* > > > > *Error! Filename not > specified.*<http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=7118&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=3> > > Clicking here will add your name to this petition: > > *Missouri Republicans have proposed a voter identification bill that would > disenfranchise thousands of voters across the state. Missouri's citizens > have a constitutionally guaranteed right to vote, and no one, including > Missouri Republicans, should be able to take that away. > > As Governor, it is important that you come out in opposition to this bill > and protect Missourians from Republican attempts at voter > suppression.<http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=7118&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=4> > * > > *Error! Filename not > specified.*<http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=7118&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=7> > > Dear Linda, > > Republicans in the Missouri state legislature are fighting hard to pass a > voter identification bill that would disenfranchise thousands of voters > across the state. The bill would require voters to show a valid form of > photo identification when they head to the polls, and the information on the > ID must match their voter registration information. > > *There hasn't been a single instance of voter impersonation fraud in > Missouri — the exact type of fraud that this bill would supposedly combat. > *1 > > Why do the Republicans want to pass a bill that doesn't serve any purpose > other than making it much harder for student voters, seniors, and > lower-income citizens to vote? > > Because Republicans believe that suppressing their votes will give > Republican candidates an edge at the polls. > > Governor Jay Nixon should be trying to help more eligible voters > participate in the democratic process, not disenfranchising seniors, > students and the poor. > > *Ask Governor Nixon to come out strong against the disenfranchising photo > ID bill and tell lawmakers to oppose the measure. Click here to > automatically sign the petition. > <http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=7118&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=9>* > > This bill would make it incredibly difficult for more transient members of > the Missouri electorate, like students and lower-income voters, to be able > to vote without going through costly and time consuming procedures to get > new photo identification every time they move. Senior citizen voters would > also be affected because they may not be able to drive or might not be > physically able to travel to obtain new photo identification. Under the > proposed law, they would be unable to vote without showing a current photo > ID. > > It's not okay for Missouri Republicans to pick and choose which Missourians > are able to vote. U.S. citizens have a constitutionally guaranteed right to > vote, and no one, including Missouri Republicans, should be able to take > that away. > > Governor Jay Nixon can take a stand against this bill and show its > supporters that he won't let them decide who can and can not vote in > Missouri. *But if the Governor doesn't voice his strong opposition, the > bill may slide through the state legislature, and become law in Missouri. > * > > *Ask Governor Jay Nixon to come out strong against the disenfranchising > photo ID bill and tell lawmakers to oppose the measure. Click here to > automatically sign the petition. > <http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=7118&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=10>* > > I'm a Missouri voter. Please join me in standing up for the voting rights > of the many Missourians who would be disenfranchised under the proposed > bill. Governor Nixon needs to hear from constituents like you and me that he > must speak out to ensure that all of our state's eligible citizens can vote. > > > *Thank you* for protecting the rights of Missouri voters, > > Ali Rozell, Campaign Manager > CREDO Action from Working Assets > <http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=11&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=11> > > 1 STLToday.com > <http://act.credoaction.com/r/?r=7119&id=16493-2677971-5hJohfx&t=12>, > February 8, 2011 > > > > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > © 2011 CREDO. All rights reserved. Questions? Send us an > e-mail<i...@credoaction.com>or write us at: 101 Market Street, Suite 700, San > Francisco, CA 94105. > > This is a message from CREDO / Working Assets. 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