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Interesting re: CPU. What do you think about decreasing the height
but keeping the width re: CPU?

~RAWRR


On Mon, 08 Jun 2015 21:00:52 +0000 "Daniel Schürmann"
<dasch...@mixxx.org> wrote:
>Hi Markus,
>
>Nice mock-up.
>
>In the past we had issues with four full size Waveforms because
>the CPU
>usage increases with the size.
>So I am afraid that view does not suit to be part of Mixxx default
>skin.
>IMHO we have already more then enough view options in the
>LateNight skin.
>
>But there should be no problem with a recent devices.
>If this is the perfect skin for you use case, you are welcome to
>fork it.
>Thats the benefit of our skin engine.
>
>Kind regards.
>
>Daniel
>
>
>
>Am 08.06.2015 um 18:42 schrieb Markus Klösges:
>>> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed?
>>>
>>> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle]
>>> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2]
>>> waveform 1
>>> waveform 2
>>> waveform 3
>>> waveform 4
>>> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4]
>> I'm using Mixxx without controller without scratching and so on,
>just
>> simple crossfading with external mixer and so on.
>> I would also prefer the option to have the (almost) screen-wide
>> waveforms. I liked the 'old' 1.11 Latenight. Clearly that
>doesn't work
>> out for 4 decks.
>>
>> I think one should not clutter a skin with dozens of config-
>options but
>> better fork that skin (or decide for one, better, solution
>maybe).
>>
>> The option to get the bigLibrary is a real benefit for me and
>results in
>> lesser need of a large library when everything is turned on.
>>
>> The only reason I have the mixer turned on is the crossfader and
>the
>> preview-Buttons. On my machine, in 4 and 2 deck mode without the
>mixer
>> there is some space where the mixxx logo is displayed. Would it
>be
>> possible to get the crossfader (and maybe the cue-buttons)
>there? That
>> would result in the big waveforms for me.
>>
>> Another option would be to make the waveforms (nearly) screen-
>wide and
>> place pitch, EQ, Volume, Cue, on the left and right (as pitch
>was in
>> 1.11). That would only leave crossfader, Master, Balance,
>HeadGain and
>> Pre/Main from the mixer-section what could eventually be placed
>like
>> proposed above where the mixxx logo is, in between of
>previewDeck and
>> maybe Mics.
>> [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck1] [Waveform 1] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck2]
>> [------------------] [Waveform 3] [------------------]
>> [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck3] [Waveform 2] [pitch/EQ/Vol Deck4]
>> [------------------] [Waveform 4] [------------------]
>> [ Deck1 ]       [ Deck2 ]     [ Deck3 ]      [ Deck4 ]
>> [PreviewDeck]   [   Crossfade/Master  ]  [Microphones]
>> [Samplers]
>> [Effects]
>> [Library]
>>
>> I've done a quick sketch http://imgur.com/MruunAd
>> I've not rescaled anything except some little changes and this
>dosn't
>> get bigger than the current approach but gives much bigger
>waveforms.
>>
>> But I am unsure if this is out of scope for LateNight and should
>better
>> be done in an other skin.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Markus
>>
>> Am 08.06.2015 um 03:44 schrieb Be:
>>> I tested it and it helps, but adding these options feels like
>putting
>>> bandages on a bigger design issues that are not very easy to
>solve.
>>> There are so many buttons for skin options at the top that it's
>kinda
>>> overwhelming. However, I think trying to implement better
>solutions to
>>> those design challenges would take a lot of effort that
>shouldn't delay
>>> 1.12.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on the general outline I proposed?
>>>
>>> [master gain][balance][head mix][head gain][4/2 deck toggle]
>>> [Deck 1][Deck 1/2 mixer][Deck 2]
>>> waveform 1
>>> waveform 2
>>> waveform 3
>>> waveform 4
>>> [Deck 3][Deck 3/4 mixer][Deck 4]
>>>
>>> On 06/06/2015 01:04 PM, Owen Williams wrote:
>>>> "thanks" as in, you tested it and it works well?  I don't want
>to commit
>>>> without someone taking a look at it.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, 2015-06-06 at 09:30 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com
>wrote:
>>>>> On Sat, 06 Jun 2015 00:29:14 +0000 "Owen Williams"
>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I've posted a PR for some new LateNight display options.
>I'm
>>>>>> definitely
>>>>>> running up against the limits of the skinning engine so I
>can't do
>>>>>> a lot
>>>>>> more than this.  But it makes it possible to specifically
>select
>>>>>> the big
>>>>>> waveforms if you want them.  It also makes it possible to
>turn off
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> EQs to save some vertical space without eliminating the
>whole
>>>>>> mixer.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks:)
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 2015-06-05 at 05:16 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com
>wrote:
>>>>>>> Owen,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That mockup was poorly thought out re: mixer, sorry. I
>never use
>>>>>> 4
>>>>>>> decks :/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you aren't sick of my backseat driving yet, I just had
>>>>>> another
>>>>>>> slightly radical idea - make LateNight's library "toggle
>only",
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> that the "big library" button becomes the only way to see
>it.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>>> wouldn't inhibit my personal use style, and it would free
>the
>>>>>>> entire screen for controls.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Possibly a complimentary idea is to let the search field
>remain
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the main window, and have "big library" open with the
>results,
>>>>>>> either as you type or after hitting enter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just for fun I've attached the Gimp .xcf layers I used for
>the
>>>>>>> mockup, which can be used in a paper-doll fashion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~RAWRR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:01:55 +0000 "Owen Williams"
>>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I think we should come up with some sort of standard
>effect
>>>>>> rack
>>>>>>>> template that all the skins can share (and theme as
>necessary)
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> not sure we can do that in time for release.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is currently not enough room for big waveforms and
>the
>>>>>> mixer
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> also 4 decks.  At low resolutions, it's already impossible
>to
>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>> UI element, and the skin system is not flexible enough to
>allow
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> every possible combination of elements.  So the design is
>a
>>>>>> best-
>>>>>>>> effort
>>>>>>>> at letting people choose a good layout.  Ultimately if
>there's
>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> skin
>>>>>>>> design you want that isn't possible, it may be necessary
>to
>>>>>> create
>>>>>>>> a new
>>>>>>>> skin for it.  For a while I was maintaining LateNight-
>Wide,
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> all four decks horizontally and the waveforms at the top,
>>>>>> spanning
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> width of the screen.  Maybe it's time to resurrect that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 18:40 +0000, re-cy...@hushmail.com
>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Owen,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been using the LateNight resizeable skin and I have
>a
>>>>>>>> couple
>>>>>>>>> of issues:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can we get a thing where the effects bank can optionally
>get
>>>>>>>>> minimized, possibly back to the simplistic dials existing
>>>>>>>>> previously? I'm running out of real estate on all of my
>>>>>> screens,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't currently have any hi-res ones.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Related, I kind of hate being forced to choose waveforms
>vs.
>>>>>>>> mixer,
>>>>>>>>> and the loss of big waveforms in that skin to begin with.
>It
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>>> to me the reason they got 86'd was the effects bank
>mentioned
>>>>>>>> above.
>>>>>>>>> Didn't file a bug because this is just my
>>>>>> experience/preference,
>>>>>>>>> but thought you'd want feedback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ~RAWRR
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 17:53:57 +0000 "Owen Williams"
>>>>>>>>> <owilli...@mixxx.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2015-06-02 at 15:29 -0400, RJ Ryan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * skin polish (Jus has an active Deere branch)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The skins are in kind of bad shape at the moment. They
>>>>>> really
>>>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>>>>> polish to bring them to design bar that we set pretty
>high
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.11.0.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You mention skins are in a bad shape -- can you file
>bugs
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> issues you
>>>>>>>>>> know about?  I've been fixing the LateNight bugs as they
>are
>>>>>>>>>> reported
>>>>>>>>>> and I think things are in a pretty good state there.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We really need to get the Deere stuff merged in, though.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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