dear sirs and madam,
btw Pre-MM saya baru aja kelar lho ......
ada 2 option dalam rencana masa depan saya...
prioritas pertama saya mau jadi entrepreneur dan saat ini saya bekerja di salah satu perusahaan asing tapi juga sedang merintis sebuah usaha dibidang konsultan dan kontraktor sistem kontrol di cikarang... makanya saya butuh ilmu pengetahuan dan ketrampilan yang matang untuk menjalankan dan mengembangkan usaha tersebut. jadi sebenarnya untuk prioritas yang ini saya tidak terlalu butuh sertifikat ataupun gelar.... yang saya butuh adalah pengetahuan dan pengalaman.
sedangkan saya juga menyadari bahwa dunia bisnis itu penuh dengan ketidak pastian.... bisa berhasil dan bisa juga gagal..... dan jika bisnis saya gagal maka besar kemungkinan saya perlu mencari pekerjaan lagi (kerja ikut orang lagi deh...) . nah disini kita tidak bisa pungkiri bahwa dunia kerja di indonesia saat ini masih memperhitungkan gelar dan juga almamater.....dan pada prioritas yang kedua ini saya perlukan gelar itu.... dari observasi di berbagai sumber.... kadang saya temui bahwa berbagai perusahaan international memiliki program untuk mahasiswa ataupun lulusan MBA...namun bukan MM. sedangkan saya juga telah compare curikulum dari berbagai univ asing yang menawarkan gelar MBA dengan kurilulum MM-UGM kita...dan menurut saya sih sama aja..... di Monash Mount eliza AUstralia ada semacam program atau mata kuliah yang menitik beratkan pada pengembangan ketrampilan praktis mahasiswanya di bidang bisnis dan manajemen...nah di MM UGM kutemukan program non credit nya.....yang menurut saya itu bukan materi teoritis.....seperti halnya obbying, table manner, leadership , dsb..... kalo mengenai penguasaan materi teoritis menurut saya sangat tergantung dari orang nya sendiri karena pada dasarnya yang belajar itu khan kita bukan institusinya. sedangkan pengalaman bisnis......., saya rasa saya akan dapatkan secara langsung dari usaha yang saya jalan kan tersebut......
jadi saya ingin saya nantinya punya ilmu pengetahuan, ketrampilan, pengalaman, dan gelar yang memadai untuk masa depan saya....saya harap dengan memiliki semua itu...maka masa depan karir saya akan lebih baik.....(bagaimana menurut bapak ibu, om n tante....).
oleh karena itu saya jadi pengen tau kenapa sih ada gelar MM dan MBA? apakah hanya karena dalam sistem pendidikan resmi di indonesia yang tidak mengenal gelar MBA? sama seperti dihapuskannya gelar insinyur dan diganti dengan gelar ST.....?
bagaimana menurut om n tante sekalian......?
nah jika ternyata ada lowongan kerja yang mensyaratkan pelamar memiliki gelar MBA, apakah pemilik gelar MM juga memenuhi syarat....? (mohon info bagi om n tante yang bid HRD yah......)
Regards for all,
Vian A
On 3/19/06, ultra_chilled <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
well..i guess everyone is busy too, right? though i'm not the one
who raised the question, thanks for your replies to my postings..do
appreciate it :-)
Vian, since you're still in Pre-MM program and seems that you're
thinking where to move on further, please allow me to give you some
questions that may help you to decide better.
First, why do you want to take further degree? why MM? why MBA? why
not other degrees? do you really have to take further degree?
Second, what do you want to do as your career?
Third, how your further degree will help you to get your dream
career?
In addition to the money that you'll spend, you will invest your
time as well and time is money too. Be true to yourself..make sure
that you know what you're going to do. Please don't waste your time
and money just to have one or two degrees that you don't exactly
know why you take it and what to do with it.
if you're still interested to find out more, i'll be more than happy
to share my opinions through our private emails.
hope it helps. thanks.
andy--- In mm-ugm@yahoogroups.com, Gatot Soemartono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Oh… goodness, I don't want to get involved in this never
ending debate,
> MM v. MBA.
>
> I have been swamped with SO many things to do here THAT I may not
be
> able to address this issue satisfactorily. My efforts to argue
should
> be put on this, in order to come to a conclusion that in practice
there
> is no significant distinction between the two! That's something
> unlikely for me at this time.
>
> However, let me briefly suggest the following.
>
> I have visited many places around the globe and of course
experienced
> myself with doing courses at top MBA schools. I never found any
> significant differences as to Andy's suggestion. We may be able
to make
> a convincing argument that MM is prone to emphasize on theoretical
> aspects. Besides, as the name suggests, MM seems more general in
the
> sense that it may be applied to all fields, and not merely in
business
> as MBA does.
>
> Anyhow in the end, no matter how strong our reasons are, we may
have
> come to the same conclusion that no practical distinction could be
made
> between the two. Why should we do the two then? For sure, securing
two
> degrees, MM and MBA, looks more prestigious than having a degree
only,
> either MM or MBA.
>
>
> GS
>
>
>
>
> >----Original Message----> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Mar 17, 2006 10:56
> >To: < mm-ugm@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subj: [mm-ugm] Re: beda MM dan MBA?
> >
> >Gatot, if i'm not mistaken, MM degree that you mentioned is a
> >program between MBA in Kellog and Master of Engineering
Management
> >from McCormick and the degree is called "Master of Management &
> >Engineering"..is it?
> >
> >of course either in MM or MBA courses are based on theories..but
if
> >we compare the curriculum, let's say between MMUGM and top MBA
> >schools, especially for the electives courses..then most likely
> >we'll find that in MBA program case study represents bigger part
of
> >the syllabus than in MM program. having said that, students are
> >expected to study the theories by themselves, bringing out the
> >knowledge into classroom and group discussion while their
professors
> >guide the discussions and expecting questions from
students..instead
> >of professors reading the textbooks in front of the classroom
while
> >students taking notes or sending out sms during classes.
> >
> >so in my opinion, MM and MBA are two similar degrees with similar
> >contents but still they are not the same thing. depends on the
> >objective, studying at MM or MBA could give a different learning
> >experience and market value to somebody.
> >
> >actually, Vian, what is the purpose of your question? maybe if
you
> >could tell us what exactly do you want to know, then we can
narrow
> >down our discussions further..
> >
> >hope it helps..thanks..
> >> >andy - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >http://www.friendster.com/profiles/laversky
> >
> >--- In mm-ugm@yahoogroups.com, Gatot Soemartono <gsoemart@> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Barangkali, bedanya antara MM dan MBA, bukan yang satu
Indonesia
> >dan
> >> lainnya asing.
> >>
> >> The Kellogg School of Management di Northwestern Univ. (di mana
> >> Phillip Kotler mengajar) memberikan gelar MM, serta MBA (1 atau
2
> >> tahun). MIT menggunakan nama Sloan School of Management, tetapi
> >> memberikan gelar MBA.
> >>
> >> Keduanya menekankan teori (tidak ada yang lebih banyak), dan
> >keduanya
> >> juga menggunakan kasus-kasus! Nampaknya, pertanyaan ini lebih
> >kepada
> >> apa bedanya Surakarta dan Solo...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >----Original Message----
> >> >From: ultra_chilled@
> >> >Date: Mar 16, 2006 17:43
> >> >To: < mm-ugm@yahoogroups.com>
> >> >Subj: [mm-ugm] Re: beda MM dan MBA?
> >> >
> >> >Vian, I think, in general, MM seems to still put more emphasis
on
> >> >learning the theories itself while MBA is more on applying the
> >> >theories through case study approach..
> >> >
> >> >andy
> >> > http://www.friendster.com/profiles/laversky
> >> >
> >> >> On 2/10/06, andi sumange <enggang97@> wrote: bedanya
banyak
> >> >tapi yang pasti MM titel dari Indonesia MBA titel dari luar
negeri
> >> >>
> >> >> vian adzhar <vian.adzhar@> wrote: bapak ibu...om tante.....
> >> >>
> >> >> mohon sharing pendapat.........apa sih beda antara MBA dan
MM?
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank s,
> >> >> Vian
> >> >>
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