On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Ricardo SIGNES <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Dave Rolsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-06-10T13:23:09] >> The point is that you should ship a dist that is complete enough for an >> end-user to untar it, hack on the distro, run all the tests, and send you a >> patch. > > See, I think this is a lousy goal. More and more, I am not building my > distribution tarballs like this: > > $ perl Makefile.PL > $ make manifest && make disttest && make dist && cpan-upload Dist.tgz > > When I do that, I have to do all kinds of obnoxious boring crap like include > boilerplate POD, have a build tool that can run my release tests (but not let > them get run by installing users), make sure that my changelog is up to date, > update $VERSION in every module, and so on. It sucks. > > Sure, things like ShipIt and Module::Release and Perl::Version's > perl-reversion > help with a lot of this. They just don't do as much as I want. > > I want my build process to turn the code in my repository into a distribution > for the CPAN. In other words, I supply: > > * the code and documentation specifically about that code > * tests that all installers should run > * tests that should be run before releasing > * tests that I should run all the time when developing, but others shouldn't > * a few pieces of metadata like license info and prereqs > > Then I get a tarball that has added a $VERSION to all my code, updated the POD > =head1 VERSION section, made a Makefile.PL that includes the right prereqs, > and > made a MANIFEST that I know will be accurate. > > This saves me a huge amount of time. It's enormous. Further, the more work > that I turn over to build automation, the more time I save as all of my dists > can drop code they don't need.
I'd love to see your environment and I think many of us could improve our module packaging system by looking at it. If it was even released to a repository of open source perl code.... [...] your points are valid and I'd be glad to make improvements once I understand how and have the tuits to do them. Gabor
