O.K. Amigos, I think I have reached and streched my boundaries. Talk about 
suspended in language! The language has me trapped in a Coccon and that's 
o.k. because a mind needs to rest and re-charge from time to time.
Please keep this discussion alive, and one of you 'lurkers' come on I dare 
you to jump in and say something. Come down and join us! or them, because I 
need to re-treat and meditated a bit about this one:



>that instead of quality.This "I" cant define quality, ultimate or 
>otherwise,
>lose the I and who defines what ?
>btw..think about this one : there is no such "thing" as quality, or time !
>meanwhile, back at the language barrier !


O.k. I will say this much:

Quality will go on without the 'I' for sure, Quality is always been there 
somewhere in TIME.

You see, now I am not only inside a Coccon but getting tangle in a web. TIME 
can't have Quality. Quality is not held by anything or any concept, it is 
just there waiting to be trapped.
.....all systems down.....my needs rest...

Ciao,
Carmen.
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