Since I've seen that the last beta was 3.86b, I tested it on the same sample. The 
improvement over 3.85b is significant, and now I can ear almost no artefact but on CBR 
128 and below:


lame 3.86b   (--lowpass 15 for all VBRs)
   CBR 96   horrible/artefacts
   CBR 128  acceptable/slight artefacts
   CBR 192  good
   VBR 9    (120kbs) acceptable
   VBR 8    (127kbs) acceptable
   VBR 7    (133kbbs) correct
   VBR 6    (140 kbs) correct
   VBRnew 9 (117kbs) acceptable
   VBRnew 6 (135kbs) correct-good
   ABR 128  (128kbs) acceptable



Just a remark: the default VBR mode seems to be still --vbr-old (and not --vbr-new, as 
suggested by the doc). 


Pierre





Pierre Hugonnet wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have a interesting (I think) test sample (.wav ~1.6MB), which consists mainly of 
>cymbal hits, with some drums and bass. The problem here is the the cymbal hits. Small 
>reports using lame 3.70 (the last stable release) and 3.85b (last beta?) is below. 
>However: the CBR result was better (though not very at 128kbs) in 3.70; VBR performs 
>better than ABR and CBR with 3.85b.
> 
> in 3.85b I'm a little bit worried by the VBR quality setting, which produce fully 
>different behavior (average bitrate) than in 3.70.
> 
> If somebody is interested in getting the .wav for more testing, just tell me where 
>to upload it.
> 
> Pierre
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> lame 3.70
>    CBR 96  horrible/artefacts
>    CBR 128 acceptable/slight artefacts
>    VBR 6   (107kbs) poor/artefacts
>    VBR 5   (123kbs) poor
>    VBR 4   (163kbs) correct
> 
> lame 3.85b   (--lowpass 15 for all VBRs)
>    CBR 96   horrible/artefacts
>    CBR 128  acceptable/artefacts
>    CBR 192  good
>    VBR 9    (119kbs) acceptable/slight artefacts
>    VBR 8    (125kbs) acceptable
>    VBR 7    (131 kbs) correct
>    VBR 6    (136 kbs) correct
>    VBRnew 9 (147kbs) good
>    ABR 128  (134kbs) acceptable/sligth artefacts
> 
> Conclusion:
>    great improvement of VBR_rh from 3.70 to 3.85b
>    ABR slightly better than CBR
>    VBR slightly better than ABR and CBR
>    VBR_mt and VBR_rh quality similar ?
>    CBR 128 better with 3.70
>    default low pass two low in VBR modes
>    need -V > 10 in VBR !!
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