Hallo Michael,

Du schriebst am Thu, 14 Nov 2013 08:56:27 +0100:

> > the code the compiler produces may look wildly different from what the 
> > programmer expected. 
> This is _very_ true with GNU C.  When using optimization level 3, the 
> debugger has no chance to show certain variables, as they are optimized 
> off or the source code  constructs are replaced by completely different 
> constructs that yield the same results but work faster. One reason why C 
> usually produces faster code than Pascal.

Might depend. Faster for which architecture? Compared against which other
compiler? That's a _very_ bold statment and probabely not provable in any
way.

> For debugging you can define a lower Optimization level.

You can d that, of course. Often, then, the reason for debugging goes away.

> > The _Pascal_ "with" or the (here mentioned) _Oberon_ "with"? They're
> > _not_ the same!
> 
> I see. Eliminating the horrible hiding ambiguity by use of an alias does 
> make sense.

Not for me. For my part, I dislike the Oberon style "with" at least just
as much as you seem to dislike the Pascal style.

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