Folks: The proposed project will rock. Yes, killer applications will pay the bill and keep Java developers very cost effective on best-of-breed deliverables.
For container managed authentication, please leverage on Tomcat5 efforts, via JAAS plugins to be in compliance with JSR 115 (Java Authorization Contract for Containers). BaTien ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vic Cekvenich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: [MVC-Programmers] 3 things from MVC list. > Thanks, > Vic > > ps: > > I would like to propose a project for the incubator. > > Background > > Scope: basicPortal.sf.net, is a portal vertical applications suite, or a > portal web application containing a set of frequently used vertical > business applications that you install from setup.exe. > It use Jakarta many sub projects, it’s main verticals are CMS and > Community building. > It is not a framework, but actual solutions to business problems/needs. > It’s based on Struts tiles, but includes Tomcat, a PostgreSQL (which > has a liberal license) DB, in which XML content is stored as a varchar > filed in a db, and it is rendered via JSTL x:transform tag. One of it’s > goals it to be able to run J:Meter right out of the box to find out how > many transactions it can support. Also, it is being ported to Commons > SQL for DAO. > The goal of it’s UI is something like “my.netscape.com” where you can > move verticals around (some verticals like carigslist.com) so an admin > can assign a suite for a “role” (based on JDBC Realms). > > The problem so far has been to write sample apps for a Jakarta project, > for example Master Detail processing of users in Struts, or JDBC Relms > in Tomcat. This suite provides a place where a project can be plugged in. > > It is similar to JetSpeed, but based on Struts and JSTL. It is similar > to Forest and Caccon, one day jakarta web site could have it’s XML moved > to something like basicPortal and have it be a dynamic content with RSS > feeds, and approval, etc. > I believe JetSpeed can get better with some competition; Jakarta has a > tradition of similar systems, such as Velocity, Turbine and Struts. > > I think it should be in incubator and become a Jakarta project one day > as a show case of what a business user can do with Jakarta. Most > projects now are framework type for developers. > > Community and Developers: It could use a better community and more > involvement. > It’s developers list > https://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=55539 > but I did most of the development. > I have several commercial sites that use it, and baseBeans.com is > running it. > I have mailing list, that is not specific to basicPortal at > http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers > It is as popular or more than OJB/Tapestry, the latest 2 projects. > BasicPortal will work more on building a community before and after > acceptance, as is required by the Subproject proposal page. (“understand > what it means to build a community”). One developer is using Nullsoft > Open source setup to make a setup. > It is already packaged as org.apache.xyz > > > Alignment: It also does try to demonstrate some of the good practices > designs in developing an application that uses Tomcat, Struts, JSTL, SQL > Commons, DBCP, J:meter, and any other Jakarta project, that could be > used. I realy think some projects could build a demo app, since Tomcat > and working PostgreSQL will be provided to basicPortal. > It’s an application that was developed using KISS, everything in it is > simple code that is very teachable, and each pieces is simple. > > Some of the features: > - New content can be approved (in a multi row update, so you can check a > lot of content at once) before it is available. > - Wiki style, non approved comments on any page (from a comments db table) > - RSS based feed (digester based-into content table) > - Tomcat based declarative users security of JDBC realms (a users table, > each role has it’s module actions) > - Modules for Contact Management (user table), Task tracking, E-mail web > client, Store, Auction, Bloeger. > - It allows for people to upload an image into a DB (as BLOB) and > display it from a JSP (via a servlet link) > > > Like I said it is simple, combined systems to make a useful application. > For example, anyone can write a user maintenance web module, basicPortal > uses it for JDBC Realms, so in Struts in order to long in you need to be > a user. > > CMS: users enter an XML record in a XML field in DB. Simple. But since > it is DB, it can be flagged a approved, and rendered to another HTML > filed in same table. > > Ad sub system uses GIF images stored in a DB. When user is browsing > certain content, we can find out ads with similar metatags and display > it. (as well as measuer click troughs via count++;) > > The entire application is tile (Sturts tiles action, vs Struts action) > based, so that users in the Relm of admin, can move tiles around similar > to my.netscape.com to change the look and feel for the group. > > Other modules are even simpler. > > The foundation of application is Struts Tiles Action (MVC), so as above, > it can have several different presentations. > It can also have several different DB layers, such as RowSet or > SQL-Commons. Other can be added by implementing a simple DAO interface. > (we did not do OJB or JDO yet since they tend to be more heavyweight). > > The system comes with PostGreSQL DB and can alternatively be installed > via Setup.exe, since it is an application useful for business (as > opposed to a framework like Struts that is used by a programmer). > > Upon installation, once can immediately run J:Meter on it, to find out > how quickly the master/detail processing would happen in your > environment. It is popular to have performance of a system (and you can > change your layers here). > > And if I can say useful again, J:Meter is cool and so is DBCP, but when > combined and we code a simple master/detail processing, now that is > greater than the sum of the parts. > > Other Jakarta projects might want to demo a sample of it’s features, and > basicPortal could provide the rest, for example it’s working and > updateable beans. > > > And I think we should move past the Apache HTTP static web server. > Apache is not as powerful as a DB based Java CMS, such as basicPortal. > Also…. If you are old enough to remember the days of Shareware, things > like Sidekick. I miss those days, when you could develop an application > (not a framework) and offer it to the community. I hope for an explosion > of web applications/share ware, free ware similar to basicPortal setup.exe. > > Orphaned and Inexperience, etc: basicPortal is not. It has more > production sites (non-compete) than Jetspeed, etc. Development on > basicPortal has gone on for more than 6 months. > > It has plenty of ties to Apache products, except where there are none. > > Lastly, every now and then, there are talented people between the gigs. > System programming is cool, but if we can write a killer bus. app., that > can pay the bills. > > BasicPortal is Apache license already. It does use JasperReports for > repotting (Apache license) and PostgreSQL, both of which are non-Jakrta, > and it comes out of the box with Eclipse, like Jboss. So you get a full > environment for the download. > > It will also cross over to xml.apache, for Soap and Forest features to > make dynamic db. > > BasicPortal can be named something else (Jasic? for Jakarta Basic ), or > have logos, or some other infrastructure. It’s future, as always, > depends on the kind souls that implement features like to see. So I am > all for Meritocracy. I would not mind at all if someone with more > Jakarta background decided to guide it some. > > Summary: > > basicPortal leverages a combination of Jakarta projects to solve > business problems, and shows some ways of writing a CMS/Community > project for high performance sites via dynamic and not static content, > as well as commonly needed verticals. 80% of projects need for example > container based authentication and a way to manage users/roles. So start > with something that works and just do the missing parts. > It is always in the top 10% of sf.net and has about 1,600 downloads per > month. > I would like to re-package the screens/src and place on Jakarta, if you > like the idea. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MVC-Programmers mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers > _______________________________________________ MVC-Programmers mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.basebeans.net:8080/mailman/listinfo/mvc-programmers
